Hi Shane, yeah it is the Zen that really interests me but I don't know how friendly it is. Jonathan Mosen Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com Ph: +1-925-566-9265. Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671 -----Original Message----- From: Shane Jackson [mailto:jack728@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 6:39 p.m. To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bct] Re: Hard Disk-based MP3 Players Hey there, Jonathan. I responded to you on one of your lists, but I'd like to respond on the Blindcooltech list as well, just in case some of the listers here might help us both. The creative line of hard-disk players looks really neat, and when I saw my sister-in-law's last year, I wanted one. The Zen players are the ones I'm speaking of, and they are most assuredly Audible-ready. I wonder, though, just how accessible they might be? Thanks for any discussion. I'm Christmas shopping, too, and I really would like to find something to replace this Iriver IFP-799. All the best.