Don thanks for this. I did a lot of reading of manuals and reviews, and endded up concluding as you did, and buying the Iriver H340. It doesn't have Audible support, but there are ways around that. Thanks for everyone's contributions. Jonathan Mosen Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com Ph: +1-925-566-9265. Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671 -----Original Message----- From: Don Ball [mailto:dball10@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 4:39 a.m. To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bct] Re: Hard Disk-based MP3 Players I would say that one think to look for on a hard drive based player is if it has dedicated folder keys. the Iriver h340 is a good hard disc based player/recorder but is not supported by audible. You can get a remote for the old Ihp140 That has dedicated folder keys but the are not on the player. You can move from folder to folder one folder at a time but when you have so many folders you need to be able to jump many folders. I wonder if the RCA players have folder keys. My next player will surely have them.