[bct] Re: Copyright Question

  • From: Tim Cross <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 18:21:20 +1000

I agree - the record companies are being overly greedy and have had it
all their way for far too long. I think they now realise this, but too
little too late. With modern technology and the net, it is now a lot
more feasible for artists to produce their own albums and distribute
them without getting caught up in the nightmare which is the recording
industry. 

Tim

stanleylr writes:
 > Right. It would not be worth the hassle. There are many scurting the issue 
 > out there, but I am not sure what will happen in the future. 
 >     I am sure of one thing, the record companies are greedy SOB's who are 
 > never happy. They rip off the consumer, and they rip off the artists. They 
 > take what they want, and never look back. 
 >     Stanley. 
 > 
 > 
 > and the answer is that it is both morally wrong and legally wrong.
 > don't know if its worth the hassle. 
 > 
 > stanleylr writes:
 >  > I have two words for you that you need to consider in this whole 
 > matter.....
 >  >       Technically
 >  >       Semantics
 >  >      It is not so much how you do a thing. It is more important how you 
 > describe the thing, and your intent. 
 >  >      So one must think is this legally wrong? 
 >  >            "       "       "     is this morally wrong? 
 >  >            "       "       "     is it really worth the hassle? 
 >  >     Stanley. 
 >  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
 >  >   From: marvin hunkin 
 >  >   To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
 >  >   Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:30 PM
 >  >   Subject: [bct] Copyright Question
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  >   Hi.
 >  >   now just wondering with the relaxation of laws, that will make it legal 
 > for 
 >  >   us to in our own private homes, able to tape tv shows, from video, and 
 > dvd,
 >  >   and able to convert music in any format, to listen to.
 >  >   now, was developing a 80s music site, and had burned my own copies of 
 > 80s 
 >  >   tracks, from cda to mp3 format.
 >  >   now, did e-mail the record companies, in australia, and have them on 
 > the 
 >  >   hard disk.
 >  >   now, was wondering, if i did put them on a server, even though the 
 > tracks 
 >  >   are 17 to 26 years old, why would i have to pay royalties to the 
 > copyright 
 >  >   holders,
 >  >   or the record companies.
 >  >   would like to allow people to download my tracks, but got the third 
 > degree 
 >  >   from the four main record companies in australia, that it would be 
 > illegal.
 >  >   now being an honest guy and a christian, would not do that.
 >  >   so here are some questions:
 >  > 
 >  >   1. what would happen, if i did pay copyright or royalties, then would  
 > i be 
 >  >   able to say make my site into a business, and charge for downloads?
 >  >   2. how would i do that, in a legal way, to cover my self?
 >  >   3. now, if other people, say in australia, or overseas, know it is 
 > illegal, 
 >  >   but put up their music collections from the 70s and 80s, which there 
 > are 
 >  >   heaps
 >  >   of sites, and music downloads, what would be the rammifcations, of that 
 >  >   illegally?
 >  >   would i be prosecuted?
 >  >   just food for thought.
 >  >   would really love to do this, but still illegal.
 >  >   if any lawyers on this list, or know of any, could they give their 2 
 > cents 
 >  >   worth on this issue.
 >  >   would really love to do this, but cannot do this, until they either 
 > change 
 >  >   the law, or make it possible, for us individuals to do this legally.
 >  >   cheers Marvin.
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  > 
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 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=4>I have two words for 
 > you 
 >  > that you need to consider in this whole matter.....</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 >  > Technically</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 >  > Semantics</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It is not so 
 > much how 
 >  > you do a thing. It is more important how you describe the thing, and your 
 >  > intent. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So one must 
 > think is 
 >  > this legally wrong? </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT 
 >  > 
 > color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 >  
 >  > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is this 
 > morally 
 >  > wrong? </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT 
 >  > 
 > color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 >  > 
 > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 >  
 >  > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is it really worth the hassle? 
 >  > </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Stanley. 
 >  > </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 >  > <BLOCKQUOTE 
 >  > style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; 
 > BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
 >  >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
 >  >   <DIV 
 >  >   style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: 
 > black"><B>From:</B> 
 >  >   <A title=marvkin@xxxxxxxxxxx href="mailto:marvkin@xxxxxxxxxxx";>marvin 
 >  >   hunkin</A> </DIV>
 >  >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
 > title=blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
 >  >   
 > href="mailto:blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
 >  >   </DIV>
 >  >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 08, 2006 10:30 
 > PM</DIV>
 >  >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [bct] Copyright 
 > Question</DIV>
 >  >   <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi.<BR>now just wondering with the relaxation of laws, 
 > that 
 >  >   will make it legal for <BR>us to in our own private homes, able to tape 
 > tv 
 >  >   shows, from video, and dvd,<BR>and able to convert music in any format, 
 > to 
 >  >   listen to.<BR>now, was developing a 80s music site, and had burned my 
 > own 
 >  >   copies of 80s <BR>tracks, from cda to mp3 format.<BR>now, did e-mail 
 > the 
 >  >   record companies, in australia, and have them on the <BR>hard 
 > disk.<BR>now, 
 >  >   was wondering, if i did put them on a server, even though the tracks 
 > <BR>are 
 >  >   17 to 26 years old, why would i have to pay royalties to the copyright 
 >  >   <BR>holders,<BR>or the record companies.<BR>would like to allow people 
 > to 
 >  >   download my tracks, but got the third degree <BR>from the four main 
 > record 
 >  >   companies in australia, that it would be illegal.<BR>now being an 
 > honest guy 
 >  >   and a christian, would not do that.<BR>so here are some 
 > questions:<BR><BR>1. 
 >  >   what would happen, if i did pay copyright or royalties, then 
 > would&nbsp; i be 
 >  >   <BR>able to say make my site into a business, and charge for 
 > downloads?<BR>2. 
 >  >   how would i do that, in a legal way, to cover my self?<BR>3. now, if 
 > other 
 >  >   people, say in australia, or overseas, know it is illegal, <BR>but put 
 > up 
 >  >   their music collections from the 70s and 80s, which there are 
 > <BR>heaps<BR>of 
 >  >   sites, and music downloads, what would be the rammifcations, of that 
 >  >   <BR>illegally?<BR>would i be prosecuted?<BR>just food for 
 > thought.<BR>would 
 >  >   really love to do this, but still illegal.<BR>if any lawyers on this 
 > list, or 
 >  >   know of any, could they give their 2 cents <BR>worth on this 
 > issue.<BR>would 
 >  >   really love to do this, but cannot do this, until they either change 
 > <BR>the 
 >  >   law, or make it possible, for us individuals to do this 
 > legally.<BR>cheers 
 >  >   Marvin.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>No virus found in this incoming 
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 > 
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 > <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=4>Right. It would not be 
 > worth the hassle. There are many scurting the issue out there, but I am not 
 > sure 
 > what will happen in the future. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am sure of one thing, 
 > the 
 > record companies are greedy SOB's who are never happy. They rip off the 
 > consumer, and they rip off the artists. They take what they want, and never 
 > look 
 > back. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 > <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Stanley. 
 > </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
 > <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 
 > size=4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
 > <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 
 > size=4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
 > <DIV>and the answer is that it is both morally wrong and legally 
 > wrong.<BR>don't 
 > know if its worth the hassle. <BR><BR>stanleylr writes:<BR>&nbsp;&gt; I have 
 > two 
 > words for you that you need to consider in this whole 
 > matter.....<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > Technically<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > Semantics<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It is not so much how 
 > you 
 > do a thing. It is more important how you describe the thing, and your 
 > intent. 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So one must think is this 
 > legally 
 > wrong? 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 >  
 > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is this morally wrong? 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 >  
 > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > "&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is it really worth the hassle? 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Stanley. <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > ----- 
 > Original Message ----- <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: marvin hunkin 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: <A 
 > href="mailto:blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:30 
 > PM<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: [bct] Copyright Question<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; now 
 > just 
 > wondering with the relaxation of laws, that will make it legal for 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; us to in our own private homes, able to tape tv 
 > shows, from video, and dvd,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; and able to convert 
 > music 
 > in any format, to listen to.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; now, was developing a 
 > 80s 
 > music site, and had burned my own copies of 80s <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > tracks, from cda to mp3 format.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; now, did e-mail 
 > the 
 > record companies, in australia, and have them on the 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > hard disk.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; now, was wondering, if i did put them 
 > on a 
 > server, even though the tracks <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; are 17 to 26 years 
 > old, why would i have to pay royalties to the copyright 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; holders,<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; or the record 
 > companies.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; would like to allow people to download 
 > my 
 > tracks, but got the third degree <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; from the four 
 > main 
 > record companies in australia, that it would be 
 > illegal.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; now being an honest guy and a christian, 
 > would not do that.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; so here are some 
 > questions:<BR>&nbsp;&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. what would happen, if 
 > i 
 > did pay copyright or royalties, then would&nbsp; i be 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > able to say make my site into a business, and charge for 
 > downloads?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. how would i do that, in a legal way, 
 > to 
 > cover my self?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. now, if other people, say in 
 > australia, or overseas, know it is illegal, <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; but 
 > put 
 > up their music collections from the 70s and 80s, which there are 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; heaps<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; of sites, and 
 > music 
 > downloads, what would be the rammifcations, of that 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > illegally?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; would i be 
 > prosecuted?<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; just food for 
 > thought.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; would really love to do this, but still 
 > illegal.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; if any lawyers on this list, or know of 
 > any, 
 > could they give their 2 cents <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; worth on this 
 > issue.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; would really love to do this, but cannot do 
 > this, until they either change <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; the law, or make 
 > it 
 > possible, for us individuals to do this legally.<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > cheers Marvin.<BR>&nbsp;&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; No 
 > virus 
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 > bgColor=#ffffff&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT 
 > face=Verdana 
 > color=#000080 size=4&gt;I have two words for you <BR>&nbsp;&gt; that you 
 > need to 
 > consider in this whole 
 > matter.....&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > Technically&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > Semantics&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It is not so much 
 > how 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; you do a thing. It is more important how you describe the 
 > thing, 
 > and your <BR>&nbsp;&gt; intent. 
 > &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; So one must think 
 > is 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; this legally wrong? 
 > &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
 >  
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; "&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 
 > "&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; is this morally <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > wrong? 
 > &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
 >  
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > "&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
 >  
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt; "&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;is it 
 > really 
 > worth the hassle? <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT 
 > color=#000080&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Stanley. <BR>&nbsp;&gt; 
 > &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE 
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 > style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: 
 > black"&gt;&lt;B&gt;From:&lt;/B&gt; <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;A <A 
 > href="mailto:title=marvkin@xxxxxxxxxxx";>title=marvkin@xxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
 > href="<A 
 > href='mailto:marvkin@xxxxxxxxxxx";>marvin'>mailto:marvkin@xxxxxxxxxxx"&gt;marvin</A>
 >  
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; hunkin&lt;/A&gt; 
 > &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;DIV style="FONT: 10pt 
 > arial"&gt;&lt;B&gt;To:&lt;/B&gt; &lt;A <A 
 > href="mailto:title=blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>title=blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
 >  
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; href="<A 
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 >  
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 > style="FONT: 10pt arial"&gt;&lt;B&gt;Sent:&lt;/B&gt; Monday, May 08, 2006 
 > 10:30 
 > PM&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;DIV style="FONT: 10pt 
 > arial"&gt;&lt;B&gt;Subject:&lt;/B&gt; [bct] Copyright 
 > Question&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;Hi.&lt;BR&gt;now just wondering with the 
 > relaxation of laws, that <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; will make it legal for 
 > &lt;BR&gt;us to in our own private homes, able to tape tv 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; shows, from video, and dvd,&lt;BR&gt;and able to 
 > convert music in any format, to <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; listen 
 > to.&lt;BR&gt;now, was developing a 80s music site, and had burned my own 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; copies of 80s &lt;BR&gt;tracks, from cda to mp3 
 > format.&lt;BR&gt;now, did e-mail the <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; record 
 > companies, in australia, and have them on the &lt;BR&gt;hard 
 > disk.&lt;BR&gt;now, 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; was wondering, if i did put them on a server, 
 > even 
 > though the tracks &lt;BR&gt;are <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 17 to 26 years 
 > old, 
 > why would i have to pay royalties to the copyright 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > &lt;BR&gt;holders,&lt;BR&gt;or the record companies.&lt;BR&gt;would like to 
 > allow people to <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; download my tracks, but got the 
 > third 
 > degree &lt;BR&gt;from the four main record <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > companies 
 > in australia, that it would be illegal.&lt;BR&gt;now being an honest guy 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; and a christian, would not do that.&lt;BR&gt;so 
 > here 
 > are some questions:&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;1. <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; what 
 > would 
 > happen, if i did pay copyright or royalties, then would&amp;nbsp; i be 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;BR&gt;able to say make my site into a 
 > business, 
 > and charge for downloads?&lt;BR&gt;2. <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; how would i 
 > do 
 > that, in a legal way, to cover my self?&lt;BR&gt;3. now, if other 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; people, say in australia, or overseas, know it is 
 > illegal, &lt;BR&gt;but put up <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; their music 
 > collections 
 > from the 70s and 80s, which there are &lt;BR&gt;heaps&lt;BR&gt;of 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; sites, and music downloads, what would be the 
 > rammifcations, of that <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > &lt;BR&gt;illegally?&lt;BR&gt;would i be prosecuted?&lt;BR&gt;just food for 
 > thought.&lt;BR&gt;would <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; really love to do this, 
 > but 
 > still illegal.&lt;BR&gt;if any lawyers on this list, or 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; know of any, could they give their 2 cents 
 > &lt;BR&gt;worth on this issue.&lt;BR&gt;would <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > really 
 > love to do this, but cannot do this, until they either change &lt;BR&gt;the 
 > <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; law, or make it possible, for us individuals to 
 > do 
 > this legally.&lt;BR&gt;cheers <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
 > Marvin.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;-- 
 > &lt;BR&gt;No virus found in this incoming <BR>&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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 >  
 > <BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free 
 > Edition.<BR>Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 
 > 5/8/2006<BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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