So we should all get together, and ask for more accessibility in the
products!
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From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [music@xxxxxxxxxxx: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users]
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Yes, I'm sure there's strength in numbers.
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 07:43:55AM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:Hi Steve,
We at Blind Access Journal just wrote a follow on letter to C.C. asking for
more accessibility to PMN. Maybe, in addition to the live demo and other
efforts, if he hears from more than just one or two blind users asking for
accessibility, it may move accessibility up the priority list just a tad.
Thanks for your PMN podcast; it may just have served to get a ball or two
moving in a positive direction.
Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:16 PM
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>Well, I'm curious too. This is probably one of my bigger efforts to
>drive for greater accessibility where the owners or operators write back
>as quickly as they did here. I just hope the momentum can pick up and
>keep going. Follow-up will be paramount here. I wanted to point out
>how it is usable in places and not a complete loss and that we are
>"trying to use" it but demonstrate the problems at the same time. It's
>like I show him that we put up some effort and now we need some help
>from his end and that we're not seeking a hand-out or whatever. That's
>partly why I thought my show would be an excellent way to point those
>things out. I think that would have been nearly impossible to document
>in an e-mail. Here, he gets to hear with his own ears what we heard
>with our own ears this weekend:).
>
>Frankly, I may be quite interested in how this all goes from a broader
>point of view. This might turn out to be one hell of an experiment. I
>wonder how many other times someone could demonstrate to a developer the
>problems with accessing their product with a live demo of their
>respective adaptive technology.
>
>On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 07:04:39PM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>This is great! I hope it leads somewhere. I've found that it is quite >>a
>>bit easier to obtain platitudes than it is to get real action. I'll be
>>interested to see how your approach works. Please keep us updated.
>>
>>
>>Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
>>Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
>>A+, CSSA, Network+!
>>Check out high quality telecommunications services at >>http://ld.net/?nu7i
>>Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
>>another person.
>>Blind Access Journal blog: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
>>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:38 AM
>>Subject: [music@xxxxxxxxxxx: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users]
>>
>>
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>>>Hey, I sent a brief message to CC Chapman of the Podsafe Music Network
>>>probably an hour or so ago and I got his response which I'm forwarding
>>>to the list in case you're interested. This is a first step; Here's
>>>hoping for continued progress in this area.
>>>
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>>>
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:56:56 -0500
>>>From: Podshow Music Network <music@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: "'Steve Holmes,,,'" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Subject: RE: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users
>>>
>>>Thank you very much for forwarding this along. I'm definitely going to
>>>listen to it (downloading now) and will forward it to our developers >>>as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>I appreciate the support and also the constructive feedback which >>>helps
>>>out
>>>everyone.
>>>
>>>C.C. Chapman
>>>Manager, www.podsafemusicnetwork.com
>>>Host, www.accidenthash.com
>>>Host, www.uturncafe.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>From: Steve Holmes,,, [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:33 AM
>>>To: music@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: PMN Accessibility for Blind Users
>>>
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>>>Hi C.C.,
>>>
>>>I'm the blind guy who signed up a few weeks ago and enjoy your site so
>>>far.
>>>I did discover some fairly large hoops to jump through while playing
>>>tracks.
>>>Actually, I performed a demonstration of how us blind people can use >>>the
>>>site with commonly used Windows screen reader technology and spoken
>>>output
>>>on my most recent podcast. I accomplish two goals with my show;
>>>1 - Show the world how us as blind people can nogotiate about the web
>>>and
>>>in
>>>particular, the Podsafe Music Network web site.
>>>
>>>2 - Draw attention to some of the difficulties that blind users can
>>>currently run into with the PMN site.
>>>
>>>To get more details, I invite you to listen to my most recent episode >>>of
>>>the
>>>HolmesGrown Solutions Podcast at
>>>http://www.holmesgrown.com/podcasts/HGSA-2005-10-28.mp3 for the direct
>>>link
>>>or http://feeds.feedburner.com/holmesgrown for the RSS feed.
>>>
>>>Sorry for the length of the show but I would hope that this program
>>>might
>>>help morph Podsafe Music Network into a site that is even better than >>>it
>>>currently is.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the time.
>>>
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