Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign

  • From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:24:42 -0700

Hi Gary and all,

Oh, hmm, interesting, still trying to figure out exactly how my friend 
Allison's response got onto the lists in the first place, but...

After being outright ignored for such a long time, and especially given the 
emergence of numerous solutions, I have grown to feel that the continued lack 
of an audio CAPTCHA on any web site is just absolutely inexcusable.  The 
technology is now tried and true on the web sites of billion dollar companies 
like AOL and Google.  

Visual-only CAPTCHAs, unlike many other accessibility issues, are inherently 
designed to be passed only by a sighted person.  If you can't pass the CAPTCHA, 
you are automatically denied admission.  Sight is required in order to be 
permitted access, and blind people are usually ignored when we ask for help.  
How is this anything other than the same kind of segregation that was stomped 
out in the 1960's?

Segregation is really the only way I can find to explain the issue in a 
non-technical manner to as many people as possible.  One would hope that people 
wouldn't want to be classified as segregators, and, thus, the public relations 
aspects alone would ultimately cause Yahoo! and others to make things right by 
providing an audio CAPTCHA.

Anyone can do a Google search for terms like "audio CAPTCHA" to find numerous 
free tools, products and services that will provide a verification scheme that 
is both audio and visual.


Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another 
person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Wood 
  To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind 
People Allowed" Sign


  I don't know if that's a good choice of words that he may have used, but if 
we can't have an accessible audio method of captia, then it seems like 
segregation to me.  Maybe segregation may be a poor choice of words, but it 
feels that way to me.  I'm sorry!  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Allison Sheridan 
    To: Darrell Shandrow 
    Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; BlindNetDaily 
owners and primary contributors internal list. ; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
friends@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; blind_geek_zone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:11 AM
    Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No 
Blind People Allowed" Sign


    Darrell -  


    I'm extremely offended by your description of Yahoo as being like the 
people who denied African Americans access during segregation.  I understand 
that you don't feel the telephone callback scheme is sufficient, but to suggest 
that because it's more difficult is the same as segregation is offensive, AND 
inaccurate.


    I won't be signing this one because of the approach you're taking.  working 
WITH people works better than insulting them and accusing them of egregious 
insults.


    Allison


    On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:


      We ask all of you to review and sign the Yahoo's Accessibility 
Improvement Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html 
asking the company to make an audio alternative to its CAPTCHA available so 
that the blind and visually impaired will be permitted timely access to the 
same services as those already granted the sighted. The use of a telephone 
callback scheme is totally insufficient as it does not grant the same level of 
instant access as the sighted and Yahoo personnel 
      do not consistently make contact in a timely manner. It is our ongoing 
contention that visual only CAPTCHA schemes without at least an accessible audio
      alternative represent "No Blind People Allowed" signs in much the same 
way as African-Americans were deliberately denied entry to restaurants and other
      similar public accomodations in the era of segregation. We ask Yahoo to 
simply fix their grievous error by promptly adding an audio CAPTCHA to all its
      properties as soon as possible as part of the company's ongoing 
accessibility initiatives.

      Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
      Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
      Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
      Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i

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