Hi Debbie, Yep, it just continues to be a brick wall, despite increasing numbers of solutions. Web site operators just simply need to fix it already! Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible! Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another person. Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Hazelton To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:03 AM Subject: RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign Speaking of also, I went to match.com this week. They also have visual verification, giving a phone number to call them that did not work. I emailed them, they emailed back with a different number. I called. They were clueless at first, but went and checked and registered me by phone, very nice, just ignorant, at first. I talked about the importance of accessibility. Most of their site is workable, some things are not properly labeled. But blind people don't have social or romantic lives, right? hehehehehehe All the best! Debbie Hazelton: Helping People Feel Better, one person at a time Check out my podcast and website: http://www.debbiehazelton.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:05 AM To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign Nah, I fully agree with Darrell on this. When was the last time you got a call back from Yahoo to override your CAPTCHA lockout? HMMM? Gee, I tried several times over the past several years and I got absolutely NONE; that's right, NONE!. Like others have said on this list, visual CAPTCHA by definition discriminates against the blind and anyone who uses it without alternatives is biggotted! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Allison Sheridan [mailto:asheridan@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:12 AM To: Darrell Shandrow Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; BlindNetDaily owners and primary contributors internal list.; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; friends@xxxxxxxxxxxx; blind_geek_zone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign Darrell - I'm extremely offended by your description of Yahoo as being like the people who denied African Americans access during segregation. I understand that you don't feel the telephone callback scheme is sufficient, but to suggest that because it's more difficult is the same as segregation is offensive, AND inaccurate. I won't be signing this one because of the approach you're taking. working WITH people works better than insulting them and accusing them of egregious insults. Allison On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote: We ask all of you to review and sign the Yahoo's Accessibility Improvement Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html asking the company to make an audio alternative to its CAPTCHA available so that the blind and visually impaired will be permitted timely access to the same services as those already granted the sighted. The use of a telephone callback scheme is totally insufficient as it does not grant the same level of instant access as the sighted and Yahoo personnel do not consistently make contact in a timely manner. It is our ongoing contention that visual only CAPTCHA schemes without at least an accessible audio alternative represent "No Blind People Allowed" signs in much the same way as African-Americans were deliberately denied entry to restaurants and other similar public accomodations in the era of segregation. We ask Yahoo to simply fix their grievous error by promptly adding an audio CAPTCHA to all its properties as soon as possible as part of the company's ongoing accessibility initiatives. Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another person. Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i