Re: The Juice Receiver is cross-platform

  • From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:26:07 -0700

Hi Gabe,

I have indicated that I have mixed feelings about the viability of the Mac with respect to accessibility. I am personally a PC user. I advocate for accessibility regardless of platform, but I have virtually all my computing experience on the PC and virtually no such experience on the Mac. I will thus tend to focus on accessibility related matters pertaining to the Windows, and to a lesser extent, Linux platforms. Almost everyone out in the big bad real world uses Windows. It is already tough enough to advocate for better accessibility on that operating system. Let's be careful not to spread our focus too wide.

You are a Mac user. I think that's excellent! Please do feel free to advocate for Mac related accessibility. I will even be happy to post any well composed and written material concerning the subject.

Juice Receiver is written in a variation of the Python language. It is not written in Coco, so who knows how well, if at all, it will work with VoiceOver in its current form. It is open source so, by all means, feel free to rewrite it in Coco... :-)

----- Original Message ----- From: "BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net" <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: The Juice Receiver is cross-platform

as I asked in the last message and I haven't reccieved a straight answer from you yet is, as you fight for what you say accessibility for all, will you put in an inquiry to possibly making jiuce accessible to use using the mac and voice over just as you want everyone on the band waggon on accessibility to windows users, or Does accessibility only count with jaws?
On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

Hi Gabe,

I have really mixed feelings about the Mac at this time, but I remain open minded, especially until I see VoiceOver in action. The evidence at my disposal to date would suggest that accessibility and overall functionality for blind users is still significantly better on the Windows platform.

----- Original Message ----- From: "BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net" <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: The Juice Receiver is cross-platform

Are! You! Serious!!!??????
So, your saying righyt now that accessibility is only validly avaiable for windows users and that is fine? not the blind that choose to use anything else?
Wow, this is selffish If I ever heard of it. thats just so amazing, and sad for all of us as a blind community as a hole.
On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:08 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

Hey, if people want alternatives, I believe the answer is most likely yes.
I have to be honest when I say that I have absolutely no interest in using a mac, since Windows and JAWS serve their purposes just fine for me. That doesn't necessarily mean I won't ever try a Mac, but for now, this works.

At 06:54 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:
and my question is , will the blind community, and the blind
advocates for accessibility such as darel shandrow and the blind
access journal fight or request for accessibility for us, or is
accessibility only a jaws thing?
On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:21 AM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

There are accessibility issues with the Mac version.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:43 AM
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: The Juice Receiver is cross-platform


I've changed the subject line since this question wasn't  relevant to
my last message, at all.

As I understand it, the Juice Receiver can be used on both  Linux and
the Mac.  It's entirely cross-platform.

If you get it to work with Voice Over, I'd love to hear that  since,
as far as I can tell, VO's ability to work depends on how programs
are developed.  But I don't want to turn this list into a  discussion
of Mac and VO since there are plenty of other places to do that.

Go look for what you want to try by going directly to sourceforge at:

I found this by using Google and searching on keywords:
"ipodder for the Mac."  It was right there on the first page.   Don't
forget that Google's your friend.

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