Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Picky Picky!

Sorry, I'll take Phoenix Dectalk any day before Eloquence, which is slower, 
more likely to crash, and really boaring compaired to Phoenix Dectalk.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MusiqMan" <eforce4000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Marquette, Ed" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Vincent Mistretta" 
<vin5451@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Victor Tsaran" <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxx>; "Deanne 
Fernandez" <dcm2005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Shane Jackson" <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>; 
<msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Geoff Stephens" <geoffslists@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Picky Picky!


: Yes I am young (28) years old but know very well what your referring to when 
: you talk about echo for the apple 2e and GS series.  But I would have to 
: admit eloquence has been available now for quite some time and once you get 
: use to a better clearer voice you find it kind of difficult to go back.
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Marquette, Ed" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: "Vincent Mistretta" <vin5451@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Victor Tsaran" 
: <vtsaran@xxxxxxxxx>; "Deanne Fernandez" <dcm2005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Shane 
: Jackson" <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>; <msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Geoff Stephens" 
: <geoffslists@xxxxxxxxx>
: Cc: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:04 AM
: Subject: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Picky Picky!
: 
: 
: >
: > Hello all:
: > Was following the thread about the Fonix voices.  This is clearly a
: > generational thing.
: > I'm sure most of you are way too young to remember the Echo (for the
: > Apple II) or the Echo-PC (for the 8088 version of the IBM PC).
: > These, of course, came from the early 80's, and sounded like a robot in
: > an early 50's science fiction movie with a tracheotomy.
: > So, when you get used to that, Fonix sounds like heavenly music.
: > <SMILE>
: > Just thought I'd add perspective.
: >
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > [mailto:msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vincent
: > Mistretta
: > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:15 AM
: > To: 'Victor Tsaran'; 'Deanne Fernandez'; 'Shane Jackson';
: > msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Geoff Stephens'
: > Cc: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] New podcast uploaded tonight.
: >
: > Just to make a lighter note to this discussion...
: >
: > Has anyone using the Fonix version for US noticed a hint of a Spanish
: > accent to the male voices?  I've only tried a couple, but noticed each
: > had a very slight accent not noticed on any other Fonix implementation I
: > have used prior.
: >
: >
: > Vince Mistretta
: > Speak to me on SKYPE ->
: > Skype Name: vin5451
: > Get Skype at
: > http://www.skype.com
: >
: > Call me at:
: > Cellular: (561)267-7938
: >
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > [mailto:msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Victor Tsaran
: > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:32 AM
: > To: Deanne Fernandez; 'Shane Jackson'; msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Geoff
: > Stephens
: > Cc: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] New podcast uploaded tonight.
: >
: > Funny that you say that... I am just trying a 30-day license of
: > Mobilespeak on my Nokia N95, since it's the only player in town, and
: > find that all those Akoppelas do not compare to Eloquence.
: > First of all, they are slower, in my opinion, and second, they exagerate
: > speech to much, thus making it difficult to operate the phone.
: > I wonder why Code Factory decided to abandon Eloquence TTS.
: > Regards,
: > Vic
: >
: > --- Deanne Fernandez <dcm2005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: >
: >> I agree that Eloquence is much easier to understand than the voices
: >> offered for MSP or MSS.  I am currently using Loquendo Dave for US
: >> English.  I'm still trying to learn how to put more than one voice on
: >> my phone without paying for more than one license.  I, too, can't
: >> understand certain words, even after reviewing them several times.  I
: >> haven't yet figured out how to spell words on my motorola Q.  I
: >> wouldn't mind a slightly slow response time with Eloquence if I could
: >> understand the speech better.  Sometimes, even when I know what
: >> Loquendo Dave is saying, the word still doesn't sound llike an actual
: >> word.
: >> Deanne
: >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
: >>   From: Geoff Stephens
: >>   To: 'Shane Jackson' ; msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>   Cc: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>   Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 7:18 PM
: >>   Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] New podcast uploaded tonight.
: >>
: >>
: >>   I have been showing my 8525 to various blind people since I'm a new
: >> MSP user and am anxious to let people know how usable and intuitive
: >> Code Factory has made these devices.
: >> Veteran synthesized speech users as well as newbies agree that the
: >> speech makes MSP a less than appealing solution.  In fact, many seem
: >> to become completely disinterested in all the rest of the
: >> demonstration after they hear the Fonix speech.  It seems that
: >> everybody wants Eloquence.  I truly believe Code Factory could sell
: >> significantly more copies of MSP if Eloquence was available.
: >>
: >>   I have tried to condition myself to Fonix but I have to admit that
: >> it is still difficult for me after a month and a half of use.  I'm not
: >
: >> very productive with it.  I will live with it because I have to do so.
: >> I generally use arate of 19.
: >>  I frequently have to go back and review words I did not understand.
: >> I use eloquence at a much faster rate (75 percent of maximum with JAWS
: >
: >> for example) and do not have any problem reading at that rate.
: >>
: >>   I have seen arguments on this list about the responsiveness of
: >> Fonix.  I support those who contend that it is not very responsive.
: >> It is difficult to provide support for that argument since there are
: >> many factors to consider including the device and the screen reader.
: >> How are we to know how responsive Eloquence would be with MSP if we
: >> haven't used it?
: >> I don't know how to qualify it except to say I suspect it would be
: >> bettter.
: >>
: >>   I didn't listen to the entire podcast but skimmed through it and
: >> wanted to let you know that the keys above the QWERTY keyboard are the
: >
: >> left and right soft keys in case you want to use them in the future.
: >> I was forced to do  so a couple of weeks ago when the front keyboard
: >> on my 8525 stopped working.
: >> I have since received a replacement and it is working fine.  I have
: >> continued the habit of using the soft keys on the QWERTY keyboard when
: >
: >> it is open.  For a long time I did not realize that those keys were
: >> actually keys.  I thought they were part of the communication that
: >> must occur to let the device know when the keyboard is opened and
: >> closed.  They are a little awkward to press at first but they work
: >> very well.
: >>
: >>
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