Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Picky Picky!

  • From: "Gary Wood" <k8hlx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 00:40:42 -0500

I also remember the low quality of synthesized speech back in those days.  I 
also had an Apple 2E in the 80s!  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chip Johnson 
  To: Marquette, Ed 
  Cc: Vincent Mistretta ; Victor Tsaran ; Deanne Fernandez ; Shane Jackson ; 
msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Geoff Stephens ; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Picky Picky!


  I'm with you. First PC was an 8088 with two floppies and no HD using Sonix 
TTS and Artic Vision. I did however have a lightning-fast 1200 baud modem but 
had to make due with BBSes cause there was no Internet. Anyway, Fonix doesn't 
bother me at all. I think it's great to have access to my cell phone. Thanks 
for a trip down memory lane.

  Marquette, Ed wrote: 
Hello all:
Was following the thread about the Fonix voices.  This is clearly a
generational thing.
I'm sure most of you are way too young to remember the Echo (for the
Apple II) or the Echo-PC (for the 8088 version of the IBM PC).
These, of course, came from the early 80's, and sounded like a robot in
an early 50's science fiction movie with a tracheotomy.
So, when you get used to that, Fonix sounds like heavenly music.
<SMILE>
Just thought I'd add perspective.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vincent
Mistretta
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:15 AM
To: 'Victor Tsaran'; 'Deanne Fernandez'; 'Shane Jackson';
msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Geoff Stephens'
Cc: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] New podcast uploaded tonight.

Just to make a lighter note to this discussion...

Has anyone using the Fonix version for US noticed a hint of a Spanish
accent to the male voices?  I've only tried a couple, but noticed each
had a very slight accent not noticed on any other Fonix implementation I
have used prior. 


Vince Mistretta
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-----Original Message-----
From: msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:msp_mailing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Victor Tsaran
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:32 AM
To: Deanne Fernandez; 'Shane Jackson'; msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Geoff
Stephens
Cc: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] New podcast uploaded tonight.

Funny that you say that... I am just trying a 30-day license of
Mobilespeak on my Nokia N95, since it's the only player in town, and
find that all those Akoppelas do not compare to Eloquence.
First of all, they are slower, in my opinion, and second, they exagerate
speech to much, thus making it difficult to operate the phone.
I wonder why Code Factory decided to abandon Eloquence TTS.
Regards,
Vic

--- Deanne Fernandez <dcm2005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  I agree that Eloquence is much easier to understand than the voices 
offered for MSP or MSS.  I am currently using Loquendo Dave for US 
English.  I'm still trying to learn how to put more than one voice on 
my phone without paying for more than one license.  I, too, can't 
understand certain words, even after reviewing them several times.  I 
haven't yet figured out how to spell words on my motorola Q.  I 
wouldn't mind a slightly slow response time with Eloquence if I could 
understand the speech better.  Sometimes, even when I know what 
Loquendo Dave is saying, the word still doesn't sound llike an actual 
word.
Deanne
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geoff Stephens 
  To: 'Shane Jackson' ; msp_mailing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Cc: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mobile Speak Pocket] New podcast uploaded tonight.


  I have been showing my 8525 to various blind people since I'm a new 
MSP user and am anxious to let people know how usable and intuitive 
Code Factory has made these devices.
Veteran synthesized speech users as well as newbies agree that the 
speech makes MSP a less than appealing solution.  In fact, many seem 
to become completely disinterested in all the rest of the 
demonstration after they hear the Fonix speech.  It seems that 
everybody wants Eloquence.  I truly believe Code Factory could sell 
significantly more copies of MSP if Eloquence was available.

  I have tried to condition myself to Fonix but I have to admit that 
it is still difficult for me after a month and a half of use.  I'm not
    
  very productive with it.  I will live with it because I have to do so.
I generally use arate of 19.
 I frequently have to go back and review words I did not understand.  
I use eloquence at a much faster rate (75 percent of maximum with JAWS
    
  for example) and do not have any problem reading at that rate.

  I have seen arguments on this list about the responsiveness of 
Fonix.  I support those who contend that it is not very responsive.
It is difficult to provide support for that argument since there are 
many factors to consider including the device and the screen reader.
How are we to know how responsive Eloquence would be with MSP if we 
haven't used it?
I don't know how to qualify it except to say I suspect it would be 
bettter.

  I didn't listen to the entire podcast but skimmed through it and 
wanted to let you know that the keys above the QWERTY keyboard are the
    
  left and right soft keys in case you want to use them in the future.
I was forced to do  so a couple of weeks ago when the front keyboard 
on my 8525 stopped working.
I have since received a replacement and it is working fine.  I have 
continued the habit of using the soft keys on the QWERTY keyboard when
    
  it is open.  For a long time I did not realize that those keys were 
actually keys.  I thought they were part of the communication that 
must occur to let the device know when the keyboard is opened and 
closed.  They are a little awkward to press at first but they work 
very well.



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