I have been showing my 8525 to various blind people since I'm a new MSP user and am anxious to let people know how usable and intuitive Code Factory has made these devices. Veteran synthesized speech users as well as newbies agree that the speech makes MSP a less than appealing solution. In fact, many seem to become completely disinterested in all the rest of the demonstration after they hear the Fonix speech. It seems that everybody wants Eloquence. I truly believe Code Factory could sell significantly more copies of MSP if Eloquence was available. I have tried to condition myself to Fonix but I have to admit that it is still difficult for me after a month and a half of use. I'm not very productive with it. I will live with it because I have to do so. I generally use arate of 19. I frequently have to go back and review words I did not understand. I use eloquence at a much faster rate (75 percent of maximum with JAWS for example) and do not have any problem reading at that rate. I have seen arguments on this list about the responsiveness of Fonix. I support those who contend that it is not very responsive. It is difficult to provide support for that argument since there are many factors to consider including the device and the screen reader. How are we to know how responsive Eloquence would be with MSP if we haven't used it? I don't know how to qualify it except to say I suspect it would be bettter. I didn't listen to the entire podcast but skimmed through it and wanted to let you know that the keys above the QWERTY keyboard are the left and right soft keys in case you want to use them in the future. I was forced to do so a couple of weeks ago when the front keyboard on my 8525 stopped working. I have since received a replacement and it is working fine. I have continued the habit of using the soft keys on the QWERTY keyboard when it is open. For a long time I did not realize that those keys were actually keys. I thought they were part of the communication that must occur to let the device know when the keyboard is opened and closed. They are a little awkward to press at first but they work very well.