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  • From: Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:39:05 -0700 (PDT)

Wow, and how exactly do they propose to count illegals? it's not like
illegals are going to walk up to the government and say "Hello, I'm
illegal, and I'm here."
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Subject: Illegals Will be Counted in the U.S. Census
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:53:43 -0500
From: Travis <baconlard@xxxxxxxxx>
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They should only be counted so we can either deport them or use them for
target practice.

Illegals Will be Counted in the U.S. Census
California could get nine House seats it doesn't constitutionally rate
because illegal aliens will be counted in 2010, concluded an opinion
piece in
The Wall Street Journal.
The forthcoming census, which determines the apportionment of House
members and Electoral College votes for each state, will be counting all
physically present in the country -- without regard to the legality of
their status.
Set for big gains thanks to illegal populations is not only California
Florida, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, New York and Texas, according to
the Census Bureau's 2007 American Community Survey data.
California has 5,622,422 noncitizens in its population of 36,264,467.
Based on a round-number projection by the WSJ authors of a decade-end
population in the Golden State of 37,000,000 (including 5,750,000
California would have 57 members in the newly-reapportioned U.S. House
"However, with noncitizens not included for purposes of reapportionment,
California would have 48 House seats (based on an estimated 308 million
total population in 2010 with 283 million citizens, or 650,000 citizens
House seat)," noted the report authors.
Meanwhile, using a similar projection, the authors noted that Texas
have 38 House members with noncitizens included. With only citizens
counted, it would be entitled to 34 members.
Getting counted might seem at first blush a good thing for illegals, but
there is a movement afoot to encourage illegals to boycott the 2010
As reported this week by sjnewsco, Rev. Miguel Rivera, head of the
National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders (CONLAMIC),
urged the
boycott on attendees at a meeting of local migrant workers and
held at a Salvation Army facility in South Jersey.
CONLAMIC has been behind the boycott campaign "Legalization before
Enumeration" throughout the country.
"We realize that the census is very important in setting Congressional
districts and determining the distribution of funds," Rivera said. "The
problem is, there is no other alternative in applying pressure to
Congress to
achieve fair and comprehensive immigration reform."
Furthermore, Rivera and other CONLAMIC leaders argued that officials
used previous census figures to persecute undocumented aliens.
Being counted, they say, has not been a positive thing.
While Rivera and his group express a very pragmatic interest in keeping
illegals out of the count, the WSJ authors see the issue as one of
"The Census Bureau can of course collect whatever data Congress
authorizes. But Congress must not permit the bureau to
unconstitutionally redefine
who are 'We the People of the United States,'" the authors argued.
Dr. Elizabeth Grieco, chief of the Census Bureau's Immigration
Staff, told the WSJ that the 2010 census short form does not ask about
citizenship because "Congress has not asked us to do that."
For sure , there has been a significant evolution from the kind of
envisioned by the founding fathers, noted the authors.
In 1790, the first Census Act provided for the counting
of "inhabitants."
"'Inhabitant' was at that time a term with a well-defined meaning,
maintained the authors.
As the Oxford English Dictionary expressed it, an "inhabitant" was one
who "is a bona fide member of a State, subject to all the requisitions
of its
laws, and entitled to all the privileges which they confer."

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Posted By Nimer Jaber to Nimer's Political Blog at 8/11/2009 09:38:00 PM

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