Richard, I fully agree that it would be better to keep all ratings completely separate. Whether they be friendly or tournament games, I would rather the results not be shuffled back and forth. In this blind-chess group I have won and lost a Ladder game and won one friendly game, but I am not reporting them to any other group. There are too many varables that may cause inaccurate configuations between various groups. Thank you for thinking of this before the situation got to convoluted. As this group becomes larger with more tournaments and participants, it may be better to keep this simple. Knightrider -----Original Message----- From: R Dinger <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:57 PM To: chess <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [blind-chess] Policy change on other tournaments Hi All, In the welcome letter I sent members after the first few that joined this list, I stated that we would rate all games including other tournaments as long as both players were members of this list. I think that will eventually lead to unsymmetrical results where tournaments are concerned and so I am proposing that tournament games sponsored by other groups either be excluded or be treated as friendly games for rating purposes. To date only two game scores are affected by this change and I can easily remove the games from my records. If I wait until there are many such games it will be a lot of work, so I want this decided quickly. I will adjust the affected players so there is no loss in their current rating. If you have comments or questions on this proposal please let me know right away. Richard