[bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.

I think I understand what you are doing. That will probably work fine for the header that is the name of the author, but you need to be careful for a header that, say, contains the title; because that can appear as text in the body of the book and you can delete parts of the book that way. I have seen this happen - or, rather it would have happened if I had used global search and replace. Also, I have seen headers that change with each chapter, the header being the name of that chapter. Replacing all these with nothing can create the same problem as the one with the header that is the title of the book. For headers that are consistent, that is mostly ungarbled, I generally do a confirm-type find and replace, in which I use F3 and the delete key in K1000 - or the tabbed search and replace in MS Word - in order to make sure only the headers at the top of the page are removed, and not text that is part of the book. If they are more garbled, often the case, I just remove them by hand as I come upon them while reading through the book. For books that I am scanning, if the page numbers are at the bottom of the page, I just create a margin at the top and make sure I put the book at the same place for every page. I don't think there is any one procedure for all circumstances. It depends on how consistent the headers are, where the page numbers are, and what the headers contain.


Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
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No go into edit mode control/h brings up the find and replace and what I do is go up to the header do the shift/right arrow and select over to the tab then do the control/h and the header will be selected then tab over to replace all. Start on the second page of the book the page after the first chapter starts, like if it starts on page then go to four, anyway the first page with the author's name on the left and the title on the right. If you want, my phone number is at the bottom of my emails you can call me to hear what kurzweil does on this end.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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That's right, I am using K1000. There are two heading removal options, in the Utilities menu under the File menu called Carefully and Thoroughly. They both did the same thing when I tried them on one book as far as I could tell. They both took out the same number of headers, and they both removed the page numbers with the headers. I don't use them at all.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
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Evani if memory serves, you have kurzweil right??
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:57 PM
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When I tried using the software to remove headers and footers, it took the page numbers as well. I didn't want that, so I generally remove them as I read along; except in certain cases such as when one of them is the author's name. Then I start after the preliminaries and do a search and replace on the rest of the book to get rid of those.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
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I just take mine out as I get to each page.


Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
----- Original Message ----- From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:11 PM
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Robert,

I have a question about the headers.  I am afraid to use the
header/footer
stripper in my Openbook...should I be doing this with all my scans?  I
am
afraid I will distort the text.  Thanks in advance.

Maithe


----- Original Message ----- From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.


Thanks Monica you explained it better than I did. I have seen a few
books
with the headers still in them and there have a lot of books with
errors
in them but I am not on anyone's case or anything All of us that
includes
scanners have to do a better job.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.


Hi, Mickey. I think people are basically saying that since we're
being
paid more credit to validate, let's do a good job and not just pass
stuff through the system. In the past, some people would validate a
bunch of books to earn a year's membership. They didn't spend much
time
in individual books because they knew they'd have had to validate
100
books in a year to earn next year's membership. That has changed
now. I
could be wrong, but I think people are just encouraging each other
to
raise the bar of what's acceptable validation. You have always been
a
careful validater, Mickey, so I don't see that this would change a
lot
for you. (smile) You taught me a lot about being a good validater.
I
used to be the kind of person who would just get a book and read
it,
ignoring small errors and only stopping if I literally couldn't
read
something. That has changed, and you, Sue, Katie, and Elizabeth are
all
responsible for helping me make that change. It didn't happen
overnight
or even over a period of weeks. It took me a good year or more to
finally understand and then incorporate careful validation
principles
into how I do things. It's taken another year for me to refine the
process, to use a system to do these things quickly and
comfortably.

Monica Willyard


mickey wrote:
I think I'll do pretty much the same job I've always done, because
I
think all of us are doing our best. I don't know that we should
change
our criteria for accepting or rejecting a book. We validators work
hard to make the best product we can. Because we've changed our
rate
of pay, I don't quite understand what that has to do with the
scanners. Maybe I'm missing something.


Mickey Prahin



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