Hello, If memory serves, Bookshare has provided no guidance on this matter. There is, of course, the possibility that I am forgetting and you are correct. My point about citations still remains. And, for that reason, I would still not move sentences around. Broken words, I understand, sentences, no. Irrespective of my example actually appearing at the beginning of the book-I only gave it because I recalled the sentence-my point still stands. Elizabeth, can you cite the specific Bookshare ruling on this? Thanks. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elizabeth and Burton Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:34 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: words split across pages Cindy is giving one of a series of examples I can use to illustrate my point. The point is particularly relevant when dealing with footnotes at the bottom of pages. I have kept all the files in which I have made such changes, yes kept all of them. I can go back and cite examples. Thanks so much for official feedback P. and others. E. At 02:13 AM 10/3/2006, you wrote: >Smile. Pratik, I think you gave a poor >example--smile. What people seem to be saying, and I >didn't think was allowed, was ending the page with a >complete sentence rather than allowing it to be broken >and continue on the next page. > >As it happens, you quote what, if I remember >correctly, is the first sentence in the novel. But >what it it came toward the end of the page, and the >page ended with > >"it was the age of' > >and the next page began, "of foolishness." > >That rather spoils the rhythm. smile > >Grandma Cindy > >--- Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Consider breaking up the following sentence: > > > > It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, > > it was the age of > > wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the > > epoch of belief, it was > > the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of > > Light, it was the season of > > Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the > > winter of despair, we had > > everything before us, we had nothing before us, we > > were all going direct to > > Heaven, we were all going direct the other way-in > > short, the period was so > > far like the present period, that some of its > > noisiest authorities insisted > > on its being received, for good or for evil, in the > > superlative degree of > > comparison only. > > > > > > Many of Dickens' finest works contain such examples > > of huge sentences. You > > would grossly change the structure of books should > > you decide to make > > changes to sentences. Plus, you also need to > > ocnsider those individuals who > > may use our books for citation purposes. If a > > sentence is altered the page > > citation may become something other than what it > > might have been prior to > > the change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Pratik Patel > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:22 AM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: words split across > > pages > > > > Hello all, > > > > We should not engage in changing sentences to fit on > > one page or another > > even if the sentence happens to be broken up by a > > foot note. Hyphinated > > words are quite understandable. > > > > Pratik > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Silvara > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:35 PM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: words split across > > pages > > > > Hi Rick: > > > > Nothing wrong with spell checking in Word. That's > > what I used to do before > > K1000. > > > > Keep up the good work. > > > > *** > > Grace > > > > For scanning and validating tips > > check out > > http://www.jbrownell.com/bks/tl.asp > > > > For ideas of books to scan check out: > > the No Book Left Behind AKA > > Reject list > > http://www.jbrownell.com/bks/reject.asp > > Rescan List > > http://www.jbrownell.com/bks/rescan.asp > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rik James" <d28rik@xxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:35 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: words split across > > pages > > > > > > >> I personally would be happy if I can convince > > those who scan to spell > > > check. (wistful smile) How about getting them to > > run rank spelling? (hope > > > hope) > > > > > > If I can see a way to come up with six hundred > > smackers, and upgrade to > > > K-1000, I would be happy to run rank spelling. > > But for now, it is just a > > > fig tree of my imagination, and a hope. But I do > > now do a spell check > > > with > > > my Word program before submitting a book. Heck, > > why not. > > > > > > Rik > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and > > > Burton > > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:57 AM > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: words split across > > pages > > > > > > I personally would be happy if I can convince > > those who scan to spell > > > check. (wistful smile) How about getting them to > > run rank spelling? (hope > > > hope) > > > > > > E. > > > At 12:52 PM 10/2/2006, you wrote: > > > > > >>Thanks for mentioning this, E. > > >> > > >>I think it really does make a big difference not > > to have the sentences > > >>interrupted by the headers and page numbers. I > > too have been adjusting to > > >>see that the ends of pages end in complete > > sentences. I figure if I have > > > to > > >>look for the hyphenated words at the end of pages, > > I may as well make the > > >>page end with a complete sentence. And as you > > say, this is ESPECIALLY > > >>important when there are footnotes at the bottom > > of the page. A reader > > >>can > > >>really get lost when the text of the page gets > > interrupted by a bunch of > > >>sentences in footnotes. > > >> > > >>Although this is something we can do when > > validating, it would make me > > > happy > > >>as a clam if the person who scanned the book and > > submitted it took the > > >>time > > >>and care to do this. > > >> > > >>I am beginning to feel that scanning in batch mode > > creates a heck of a lot > > >>more work down the road than just doing the scan a > > page at a time, or 2 at > > > a > > >>time in 2 page mode with most books. And to at > > least spot check each > > >>paragraph of each page. Then if the scan is bad, > > you can just delete the > > >>page right then and there and do a re-scan. Happy > > as a clam all over > > > again. > > >>Time for a clam bake. Put on your Elvis Presley > > record, and pull out that > > >>old 1960's Elvis movie Clambake, . (smile) But > > who the heck really > > >>knows > > >>how happy a clam is anyway? (That could be a > > topic for Andy Rooney, huh? > > >> > > >>Rik > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Elizabeth and > > >>Burton > > >>Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:36 AM > > >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: words split across > > pages > > >> > > >>As a validator, I move words and sentence > > fragments so that sentences end > > >>on one page or begin on another. This is taking > > some liberty with the > > >>positioning of text though not with the text > > itself. I do this to make > > >>reading go more smoothly for both braille users > > and voice users. I find > > >>it > > >>particularly necessary to do this in cases where > > footnotes at the bottom > > >>of > > >>pages break up the flow. > > >> > > >>Hope this helps. > > >> > > >>E. > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > > to > > >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. To get a list > > >>of > > >>available commands, put the word 'help' by itself > > in the subject line. > > >> > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > > to > > >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. To get a list > > >>of available commands, put the word 'help' by > > itself in the subject line. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > > to > > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. 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