[bksvol-discuss] Re: validating

  • From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:49:17 -0400

Hi Julie!
This is just a thought. NLS has people that record books for the blind as well as Recordings for the Blind. Would it be possible to get more sighted volunteers to scan books. Maybe some of the people who read for NLS? Or, could Book Share staff contact the publishing houses and have them send the computer files of the books to Book Share? It seems like Book Share should be able to get these books directly from the publishers since we have the exception and are allowed to put books in a readable format. This suggestion may not work for books published in the past as I don't know how long publishers keep the books on the computer. However, now a days it seems like this would be a good suggestion.

This message may not have been written as well as I wanted it to be. I hope you get the just of it.
Smile
Hope
----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:52 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validating


Hi, Hope. I agree with you. Unfortunately, not all submitters do that, which
is why the validator's job is so important. The guidelines for submissions,
if made too strict, will do more harm than good, I think, at least in some
cases, by discouraging people from submitting at all and limiting what ends
up in the collection, but I do agree with you. I'm not saying submitters
shouldn't validate their scans before putting them up on the site. If
someone does grab a book and sees that it's in good condition, the
validation process does go more quickly, I think, than it would if many
corrections were necessary or if something of importance wasn't clear. Take
care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:23 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validating


Hi Julie!
Maybe everyone should validate his/her book when it is scanned before
submitting it without actually validating it on book share. All I am trying
to say is that books should be read and errors corrected by the submitter
before the books are submitted. When the validate tries to validate he/she
may not have access to the original book. I hate to see any book rejected.
The scanning process is tedious and a little extra effort on the part of the
scanner to proofread his/her work would save a lot of time and frustration
for the validate.
Thanks
LOL
Hope
----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:27 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validating


Hi, Joanie. But how would one know that the submitter did pay that much
attention to detail? How would one know that the submitter did read the
book
entirely through? All of the Janette Oke books I've been submitting have
been read completely through. They are of excellent quality. Kurzweil's
ranked spelling proves that. Most of them are at least 99.8 percent
accurate
or better. Is that good? Certainly, but don't take my word for it. *smile*
I'm not saying anyone would do this, but it's possible that someone could
say they read the book completely through in hopes of speeding up the
process when, maybe, in fact, they did not. I think having another person
validate is a good form of checks and balances and support it. I think
it's
a necessary part of making sure Bookshare stays true to what it was meant
to
be, and we do have copyright to think about. What if a submitter did
validate their own submission and something in that area was missing?
Those
are just my thoughts, anyway. Take care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message ----- From: "CJ Vining" <Vining@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validating


That's one opinion I don't happen to agree with. If the book scanned
poorly,
then yes, a second person looking at the file may be a good idea, but if
it's a near excellent scan to begin with, and the book is being read cover
to cover anyway by the submitter, I don't see why that person's validation
is any less valuable than someone else's. The book is still being read
with
the same attention to detail as one would give to a book one did not scan.

Joanie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui" <goldWave@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:51 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: validating


(this is a repost of a message i wrote on 6/18/04)

Hi Everyone:

I am very glad that all the text quality people have come out of the
shadows.
There is only one more thing I would ask.
Please do not self-validate.
If your book has been sitting on the mountain of step 1 books for a
while,
(2 weeks of more) perhaps you could point that book out to the list.
I truly feel it is very worthwhile to have a second pair of eyes (pardon
the 
pun) look at the book.
That's why writers don't proofread their own books, a second person is
lible 
to catch more.

I hope my text quality bretheron share my views on this.

-- Rui

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Hein" <hmhein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] validating


>I am trying to validate This Side of HEAVEN. I down loaded it in to my
>documents, then unzipped it, then brought it up in word. Lastly I
>changed
>the file name so it could be edited. I found many errors as well as
missing
>words or even possibly sentences. I am correcting the errors and trying
to
>figure out what is supposed to be written to complete missing >sentences.
It
>is so garbled in some spots that I am going to check it out of the
library
>and try a rescan. The reason I am saying all of this is two fold.
Firstly,
>could my computer be doing something I.a. taking out words or not
>showing
>them to me? Secondly, could the people who scan the books also validate
>them since they have the print copies? This is just a suggestion. I >know
>that I am knew and do not know much about scanning and validating. You
all
>are doing a wonderful job and it is a privilege to read the books. I
>just
>wonder if the books could be scanned and validated by the same person
>it
>would save time and frustration. I have tried to validate four books >and
>only one has made it so far.
>
> I would be grateful for any suggestions if anyone thinks my computer
> may
> be causing some of the missing lines. Also, please give me feedback on
> what you think of the same person scanning and validating.
> Thank you
> I love Book Share and truly want to make it the best it can be.
> Hope
>
>
>


















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