[bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript/subscript

  • From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:57:54 -0400

Actually, to avoid any possible confusion, we replaced the nonbreaking space 
with a regular space, not with nothing.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] superscript/subscript


> Dear Jake and Booksharian Friends,
>
> I should have changed the subject line, which I have done now.
>
> I also forgot to mention two more tidbits. Since the script problem often 
> pops up when the font size changes, one Submittor tried to eliminate the 
> problem by putting the whole RTF file in a single size font. This may have 
> helped some, but super and subscripts still appeared.
>
> I have thought this might be because in the case of chapter titles, 
> perhaps a line and a half is skipped instead of, say 1 or 2 lines. Because 
> of this irregularly sized blank space, maybe scanners read the text that 
> follows as not being on a line, but being a half line above or below where 
> it should be and therefore it's labeled as Superscript etc.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:28 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character
>
>
>> Dear Jake, if you're still there, or anyone who can help
>>
>> I'm still struggling with files from several different, reliable and 
>> careful submittors, which are full of superscripts and subscripts. They 
>> are also showing up in the careful scans I do using K1000.
>>
>> Visually, sometimes I can see that letters in a superscript are higher 
>> than they should be and the reverse for the subscripts.
>>
>> Sometimes when there are a group of blank lines, as I arrow through them, 
>> Jaws will even say begin super script, end superscript.
>>
>> The superscript problem often occurs on and around chapter titles.
>>
>> I've tried highlighting the lines and going to font in Word 2003 and 
>> making sure sub and superscript aren't checked. They never are checked so 
>> I can't uncheck them. I use Control b to put bold on or off of 
>> highlighted words. I use Control I for italics and bold u for underline. 
>> I just can't find a way to rid my validations or prevalidations of these 
>> sub and superscripts.
>>
>> I should qualify. If I delete the affected lines or words, and delete a 
>> line or word before it, I can retype that material and it won't be super 
>> and sub scripted. This is time consuming. But this doesn't always work 
>> and I've actually submitted some books with unresolved super/sub script 
>> issues.
>>
>> I don't know what the tools will do. If I knew they would ignore the 
>> superscripts and subscripts, then I guess I could ignore them, too, 
>> though I would rather be able to correct them. Since they are appearing 
>> where we don't want them, we would be lucky if the tools ignored them. On 
>> the other hand, in math equations and superscript numbers in text 
>> indicating footnotes or end notes, etc, we are sad when the tools don't 
>> indicate such numbers are superscripted because we have taken time and 
>> care to put them in. I do it by writing a number as usual, highlighting 
>> it, going to options in the tools menu, and tabbing to superscript and 
>> entering to check the box for it, then tabbing to OK. When I exit menu 
>> the number is elevated as it was in the text.
>>
>> By the way, with good advice from Evan, I am now deleting those 
>> nonbreaking spaces, all of them at once with a global replace of their 
>> number replaced with nothing. You need to turn the numlock on the numpad 
>> and type the number while holding the alt key down. This is my way of 
>> demonstrating I'm progressing, though new problems like that with the 
>> sub/superscript are still cropping up.
>>
>> Technical advice helps so much!
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Always with love,
>>
>> Lissi
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:49 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character
>>
>>
>>> Hi Christina,
>>>
>>> It sounds similar to a problem I had earlier this year with some files 
>>> my university gave me. The culpret in that circumstance was an optional 
>>> hyphen. In Word 2003 you can use the Find/Replace dialogue to eliminate 
>>> them. You would want to try replacing ^- with nothing.
>>>
>>> Best of luck,
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> Jake Brownell
>>> QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
>>> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Christina" <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:36 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello.  I am still having this problem.  I will explain as clearly as I 
>>>> can what I've done to attempt to resolve it and I welcome any advice 
>>>> you can give me.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using one of the older versions of Microsoft Word, 2003, I think 
>>>> and JAWS 7.1 to validate this book.
>>>> JAWS pronounces some words differently than normal, prompting me to go 
>>>> over them character by character.  There is a pause between some of the 
>>>> letters but JAWS doesn't read anything.  I tried selecting this mystery 
>>>> character by hitting shift and then the right arrow, so that I can do 
>>>> the Search and Replace thing and remove all instances of it from the 
>>>> document, but it doesn't select anything.  I had a sighted friend look 
>>>> at the document and he said that there is nothing in between the 
>>>> letters but that some of the words are in a different font.  So, I went 
>>>> into the Edit menu and hit Select All and then I went to the Format 
>>>> menu and changed the font to Arial but that still didn't solve the 
>>>> problem.  I tried switching it to Times New Roman next; still no luck.
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas?  Is there an easy fix for this?  There are 
>>>> a lot of words in this book like this and so I'd rather fix them all at 
>>>> once than word by word.
>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>> Christina
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Christine, its extended ascii value is 173. U didn't tell us what
>>>>> software you're using to validate with, but, probably the easiest way
>>>>> to fix this if u have search & replace is the following:
>>>>> 1) Put your cursor on the weird character;
>>>>> 2) select it, in most word processors it's shift right arrow;
>>>>> 3) Copy it, usually control c in most word processors;
>>>>> 4) Use your software's search & replace function--control h in word &
>>>>> clones, sometimes control r in other packages;
>>>>> 5) Paste the character into the search box--control v in most word 
>>>>> processors;
>>>>> 6) Go to the replace with box & don't enter anything;
>>>>> 7) Hit the replace all, & they're history.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/28/08, Christina <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, all.  I am currently validating a BSO of Dragon Bones by 
>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>> Briggs.  There is one, or possibly several different, character/s 
>>>>>> that keep
>>>>>> appearing.  Could someone please tell me what these characters are? 
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> copied some of the words that contain them below.
>>>>>> I put my cursor on it and pressed the Insert key, I use JAWS, and the 
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> five and I heard a bunch of zeros followed by 255255255.  I have no 
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>> what that means.
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Christina
>>>>>> hunt­ing
>>>>>> wan­dering
>>>>>> din­ner
>>>>>>
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