Actually, to avoid any possible confusion, we replaced the nonbreaking space with a regular space, not with nothing. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] superscript/subscript > Dear Jake and Booksharian Friends, > > I should have changed the subject line, which I have done now. > > I also forgot to mention two more tidbits. Since the script problem often > pops up when the font size changes, one Submittor tried to eliminate the > problem by putting the whole RTF file in a single size font. This may have > helped some, but super and subscripts still appeared. > > I have thought this might be because in the case of chapter titles, > perhaps a line and a half is skipped instead of, say 1 or 2 lines. Because > of this irregularly sized blank space, maybe scanners read the text that > follows as not being on a line, but being a half line above or below where > it should be and therefore it's labeled as Superscript etc. > > Thanks again. > > Always with love, > > Lissi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:28 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character > > >> Dear Jake, if you're still there, or anyone who can help >> >> I'm still struggling with files from several different, reliable and >> careful submittors, which are full of superscripts and subscripts. They >> are also showing up in the careful scans I do using K1000. >> >> Visually, sometimes I can see that letters in a superscript are higher >> than they should be and the reverse for the subscripts. >> >> Sometimes when there are a group of blank lines, as I arrow through them, >> Jaws will even say begin super script, end superscript. >> >> The superscript problem often occurs on and around chapter titles. >> >> I've tried highlighting the lines and going to font in Word 2003 and >> making sure sub and superscript aren't checked. They never are checked so >> I can't uncheck them. I use Control b to put bold on or off of >> highlighted words. I use Control I for italics and bold u for underline. >> I just can't find a way to rid my validations or prevalidations of these >> sub and superscripts. >> >> I should qualify. If I delete the affected lines or words, and delete a >> line or word before it, I can retype that material and it won't be super >> and sub scripted. This is time consuming. But this doesn't always work >> and I've actually submitted some books with unresolved super/sub script >> issues. >> >> I don't know what the tools will do. If I knew they would ignore the >> superscripts and subscripts, then I guess I could ignore them, too, >> though I would rather be able to correct them. Since they are appearing >> where we don't want them, we would be lucky if the tools ignored them. On >> the other hand, in math equations and superscript numbers in text >> indicating footnotes or end notes, etc, we are sad when the tools don't >> indicate such numbers are superscripted because we have taken time and >> care to put them in. I do it by writing a number as usual, highlighting >> it, going to options in the tools menu, and tabbing to superscript and >> entering to check the box for it, then tabbing to OK. When I exit menu >> the number is elevated as it was in the text. >> >> By the way, with good advice from Evan, I am now deleting those >> nonbreaking spaces, all of them at once with a global replace of their >> number replaced with nothing. You need to turn the numlock on the numpad >> and type the number while holding the alt key down. This is my way of >> demonstrating I'm progressing, though new problems like that with the >> sub/superscript are still cropping up. >> >> Technical advice helps so much! >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Always with love, >> >> Lissi >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:49 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character >> >> >>> Hi Christina, >>> >>> It sounds similar to a problem I had earlier this year with some files >>> my university gave me. The culpret in that circumstance was an optional >>> hyphen. In Word 2003 you can use the Find/Replace dialogue to eliminate >>> them. You would want to try replacing ^- with nothing. >>> >>> Best of luck, >>> Jake >>> >>> Jake Brownell >>> QA Engineer, Bookshare.org >>> jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Christina" <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:36 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character >>> >>> >>>> Hello. I am still having this problem. I will explain as clearly as I >>>> can what I've done to attempt to resolve it and I welcome any advice >>>> you can give me. >>>> >>>> I'm using one of the older versions of Microsoft Word, 2003, I think >>>> and JAWS 7.1 to validate this book. >>>> JAWS pronounces some words differently than normal, prompting me to go >>>> over them character by character. There is a pause between some of the >>>> letters but JAWS doesn't read anything. I tried selecting this mystery >>>> character by hitting shift and then the right arrow, so that I can do >>>> the Search and Replace thing and remove all instances of it from the >>>> document, but it doesn't select anything. I had a sighted friend look >>>> at the document and he said that there is nothing in between the >>>> letters but that some of the words are in a different font. So, I went >>>> into the Edit menu and hit Select All and then I went to the Format >>>> menu and changed the font to Arial but that still didn't solve the >>>> problem. I tried switching it to Times New Roman next; still no luck. >>>> Does anyone have any ideas? Is there an easy fix for this? There are >>>> a lot of words in this book like this and so I'd rather fix them all at >>>> once than word by word. >>>> Thanks for any help. >>>> Christina >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 5:16 PM >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Strange Character >>>> >>>> >>>>> Christine, its extended ascii value is 173. U didn't tell us what >>>>> software you're using to validate with, but, probably the easiest way >>>>> to fix this if u have search & replace is the following: >>>>> 1) Put your cursor on the weird character; >>>>> 2) select it, in most word processors it's shift right arrow; >>>>> 3) Copy it, usually control c in most word processors; >>>>> 4) Use your software's search & replace function--control h in word & >>>>> clones, sometimes control r in other packages; >>>>> 5) Paste the character into the search box--control v in most word >>>>> processors; >>>>> 6) Go to the replace with box & don't enter anything; >>>>> 7) Hit the replace all, & they're history. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. >>>>> >>>>> On 6/28/08, Christina <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> Hello, all. I am currently validating a BSO of Dragon Bones by >>>>>> Patricia >>>>>> Briggs. There is one, or possibly several different, character/s >>>>>> that keep >>>>>> appearing. Could someone please tell me what these characters are? >>>>>> I've >>>>>> copied some of the words that contain them below. >>>>>> I put my cursor on it and pressed the Insert key, I use JAWS, and the >>>>>> number >>>>>> five and I heard a bunch of zeros followed by 255255255. I have no >>>>>> idea >>>>>> what that means. >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Christina >>>>>> hunting >>>>>> wandering >>>>>> dinner >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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