[bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and subscript

Cindy we have repeatedly been told to leave numbers just as they are in the print book. Do not move them. Do not add parentheses.


Gustavo spoke about this. Pratik spoke about this. Please save yourself by leaving the scan to copy the print book and refraining from moving or adding things. (smile)

I have no idea why that was not in the manual. But then I do not know what was going on when submitters were left with so little input from the manual. I was hoping spell checking and use of rank spelling might be stressed in the manual. I was hoping for inclusion of Jake's tips in appendices so newcomers can have everything in one place. But then I keep hoping for all kinds of things to make submitting and validating go more smoothly. (smile.)
E.


At 09:21 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote:
I have done that at times, but then at some point some
readers said that it was too difficult to read and
could be just put the footnote number at the end of
the sentence without parentheses. Perhaps that's
something that should be added to the manual if it
isn't already there.

I just checked the copy I downloaded and it isn't, so
I'll write to Lisa. I don't see it in Tips on Jake's
site, either.

Cindy

--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I am looking into what the Braille translator does
> with them directly. The
> one instance I found in a book I submitted came out
> rather strangely,
> although it is still recognizable as a superscript.
> For Braille readers, it
> says: and-sign sup-number sign 2, followed
> immediately by the number 20 in
> Nemeth code. But someone with whom I often work says
> that she adds
> superscripts regularly for notes, so it looks as it
> does in the print book.
> We're going to try to look at some examples today if
> possible and see what
> they look like in the brf versions. I have been
> simply going on what I have
> read here, so I want to find out directly. That one
> example is not enough to
> go on.
>
> I'll report back today or tomorrow on what I have
> found.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:20 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
> subscript
>
>
> > Good idea!! I hope I remember it, because it's
> much
> > easier to do that then fix them one at a rime as
> I've
> > been doing. smile Thanks, Evan.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > P.S. I'll bet that will also work for raised and
> > lowered letters that I've been putting back to
> normal
> > one incident at a time.
> >
> >
> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Another thing I just thought of is that she could
> >> select the whole text and
> >> if any of the text is super- or subscripted, it
> will
> >> say so in the Font
> >> dialogue box in Word. Then she can just uncheck
> >> either or both of them and
> >> desuperscript and desubscript everything. They
> >> should be removed because the
> >> Braille translator does not handle them well, if
> at
> >> all. I forget what
> >> happens exactly, but they will definitely not
> appear
> >> as they should in the
> >> Braille version. I can't speak to the Daisy
> version.
> >>
> >> Evan
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:16 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
> >> subscript
> >>
> >>
> >> > Monica,
> >> >
> >> > I'm curious as to how superscript reads in
> Jaws.
> >> In
> >> > the sentence in the page Terra sent me to look
> at,
> >> the
> >> > letters e a r in the word year were in
> subscript,
> >> > i.e., small and raised above the line, as
> >> footnotes
> >> > often are in books. People have written here
> that
> >> they
> >> > prefer to have footnote numbers written on the
> >> line
> >> > after the period in the sentence, and without
> >> > parentheses (all this detail for newbies) so I
> >> assume
> >> > that superscript numbers are read differently
> in
> >> Jaws
> >> > or braille or both. How would parts of a word
> >> read?
> >> >
> >> > I will say, for Terra, she's persistent and
> >> > courageous. This is only her second validation
> >> effort,
> >> > and based on the page she sent me, there are
> lots
> >> of
> >> > different kinds of problems. She's going to
> learn
> >> a
> >> > lot from this one book. smile
> >> >
> >> > Cindy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cindy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi, Terra. Now that's a question I've never
> been
> >> >> asked. I don't have a
> >> >> clue, and I'm not sure it matters in the final
> >> >> product since a lot of
> >> >> extra formatting is stripped out. For example,
> >> all
> >> >> tabs are removed. I
> >> >> know they keep the bold text attribute, but I
> >> have
> >> >> no idea what they do
> >> >> with things like fonts or italics in text. I
> just
> >> >> proofread the document
> >> >> for accuracy and let the Bookshare tools sort
> out
> >> >> things like fonts
> >> >> unless the book is in a giant font that Jaws
> >> can't
> >> >> read. Then I select
> >> >> all text and adjust it to 16 point Times New
> >> Roman
> >> >> and keep moving. Jaws
> >> >> can't read text in a font size of somewhere
> >> around
> >> >> 32 or larger, so that
> >> >> forces me to adjust the font size. Other than
> >> that,
> >> >> I figure I have
> >> >> enough trouble proofreading the text without
> >> trying
> >> >> to sort out how the
> >> >> text appears on the screen. Maybe someone else
> >> here
> >> >> has a better idea of
> >> >> how to help you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Monica Willyard
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Terra Syslo wrote:
> >> >> > Does anyone know how to tell in jaws with
> word
> >> if
> >> >> something is superscript
> >> >> > or subscript and how to take that out? Sorry
> >> for
> >> >> all the questions, I just
> >> >> > want to make sure I'm getting everything
> right
> >> >> with this book.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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