[bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and subscript

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:45:34 -0700

I wouldn't put the footnote number at the end of the sentence because the footnote number is associated with the word that it is printed next to. Besides, you could have more than one footnote number in a single sentence. Then what?


Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:21 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and subscript


I have done that at times, but then at some point some
readers said that it was too difficult to read and
could be just put the footnote number at the end of
the sentence without parentheses. Perhaps that's
something that should be added to the manual if it
isn't already there.

I just checked the copy I downloaded and it isn't, so
I'll write to Lisa. I don't see it in Tips on Jake's
site, either.

Cindy

--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am looking into what the Braille translator does
with them directly. The
one instance I found in a book I submitted came out
rather strangely,
although it is still recognizable as a superscript.
For Braille readers, it
says: and-sign sup-number sign 2, followed
immediately by the number 20 in
Nemeth code. But someone with whom I often work says
that she adds
superscripts regularly for notes, so it looks as it
does in the print book.
We're going to try to look at some examples today if
possible and see what
they look like in the brf versions. I have been
simply going on what I have
read here, so I want to find out directly. That one
example is not enough to
go on.

I'll report back today or tomorrow on what I have
found.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:20 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
subscript


> Good idea!! I hope I remember it, because it's
much
> easier to do that then fix them one at a rime as
I've
> been doing. smile Thanks, Evan.
>
> Cindy
>
> P.S. I'll bet that will also work for raised and
> lowered letters that I've been putting back to
normal
> one incident at a time.
>
>
> --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Another thing I just thought of is that she could
>> select the whole text and
>> if any of the text is super- or subscripted, it
will
>> say so in the Font
>> dialogue box in Word. Then she can just uncheck
>> either or both of them and
>> desuperscript and desubscript everything. They
>> should be removed because the
>> Braille translator does not handle them well, if
at
>> all. I forget what
>> happens exactly, but they will definitely not
appear
>> as they should in the
>> Braille version. I can't speak to the Daisy
version.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:16 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
>> subscript
>>
>>
>> > Monica,
>> >
>> > I'm curious as to how superscript reads in
Jaws.
>> In
>> > the sentence in the page Terra sent me to look
at,
>> the
>> > letters e a r in the word year were in
subscript,
>> > i.e., small and raised above the line, as
>> footnotes
>> > often are in books. People have written here
that
>> they
>> > prefer to have footnote numbers written on the
>> line
>> > after the period in the sentence, and without
>> > parentheses (all this detail for newbies) so I
>> assume
>> > that superscript numbers are read differently
in
>> Jaws
>> > or braille or both. How would parts of a word
>> read?
>> >
>> > I will say, for Terra, she's persistent and
>> > courageous. This is only her second validation
>> effort,
>> > and based on the page she sent me, there are
lots
>> of
>> > different kinds of problems. She's going to
learn
>> a
>> > lot from this one book. smile
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Terra. Now that's a question I've never
been
>> >> asked. I don't have a
>> >> clue, and I'm not sure it matters in the final
>> >> product since a lot of
>> >> extra formatting is stripped out. For example,
>> all
>> >> tabs are removed. I
>> >> know they keep the bold text attribute, but I
>> have
>> >> no idea what they do
>> >> with things like fonts or italics in text. I
just
>> >> proofread the document
>> >> for accuracy and let the Bookshare tools sort
out
>> >> things like fonts
>> >> unless the book is in a giant font that Jaws
>> can't
>> >> read. Then I select
>> >> all text and adjust it to 16 point Times New
>> Roman
>> >> and keep moving. Jaws
>> >> can't read text in a font size of somewhere
>> around
>> >> 32 or larger, so that
>> >> forces me to adjust the font size. Other than
>> that,
>> >> I figure I have
>> >> enough trouble proofreading the text without
>> trying
>> >> to sort out how the
>> >> text appears on the screen. Maybe someone else
>> here
>> >> has a better idea of
>> >> how to help you.
>> >>
>> >> Monica Willyard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Terra Syslo wrote:
>> >> > Does anyone know how to tell in jaws with
word
>> if
>> >> something is superscript
>> >> > or subscript and how to take that out? Sorry
>> for
>> >> all the questions, I just
>> >> > want to make sure I'm getting everything
right
>> >> with this book.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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