[bksvol-discuss] Re: submission, validation, and end results

  • From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:32:42 -0400

At least we are acquiring data about the kinds of problems which ultimately result in less useable files in terms of page numbers as Kenneth Cross's messages highlight.

E.

At 06:58 PM 10/7/2005, you wrote:

Thank you. i thought you might have provided the chapter protection, and I was sure you didn't remove the page numbers even before I checked the HTML file for them. :-)
In this case it does seem to be a problem with Kurzweil not with the bookshare tool, because the correct page numbers were present in the HTML file. Unfortunately HTML does not include page breaks, so the result is that you know what page you are on if you are reading, but finding that particular page isn't a lot of fun. Now i wonder how I could figure out what is different about the files that do and don't work in Kurzweil, because the feature isn't totally broken. Other files I opened today did have the page numbers held in bookmarks.



Sarah Van Oosterwijck Assistive Technology Trainer http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: submission, validation, and end results



Hi, Sarah,

   I don't know what went wrong with Darwin's page numbers, but I think I
can provide a clue about chapter headings. I followed the suggestion of a
couple of others on the list, and put a page number, followed by a blank
line, above each of your Chapter titles. That gave the stripper something to
strip, so it would leave your chapter titles alone. I'm glad to hear it
worked.

Paula

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] submission, validation, and end results



I'm going to do what someone has suggested and check some books I have
submitted and some I have validated to see how they came out in the end.
I
have done this in the past, but what I do to books has changed slightly so
I think it is good to check again.  Claims of page number tags being
missing for daisy files has concerned me as well.

My first examination is of Darwin's Black Box, which was my last
non-fiction submission to enter the collection.  I found some good things
and some bad things, but I have no theories for the cause of either. The
good thing is that chapter headings were present, even though I saw no
reason for them to have remained based on my original formatting.  I am
glad they did.  Page breaks must have remained correct also, because once
I
set the correct starting page in Kurzweil I could use the table of
contents
to find any chapter I wanted.

The bad thing is that the page numbers were not retained either in the
text
or in the bookmarks Kurzweil uses to show the DAISY tag page numbers.
That
totally confuses me, because the page number was present in the top left
corner of every page in the original file I submitted.  If it couldn't
find
those page numbers I really don't know how it could find any.  I sure have
had books with correctly made DAISY page tags, too, so don't tell me the
whole system never works.  Has something gone wrong lately?  Does it
require not only the page number but some other header garbage to be
present at the tops of pages in order to capture them?
I want the page numbers to be there, but I won't resubmit just to find the
same thing has happened again.  Besides I know the validator did more work
and very good work, so I wouldn't want my copy up instead of her's.

Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity

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