You know, another probably unrelated thing, though it might be the culprit. I erased all my cookies after not being able to submit, files. I haven't had a problem since. I didn't do it deliberately but did it to help the computer, you know some maintenance. Worth a shot. And here is hoping we get this fixed, I suspect it has to do with the database crash. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner