Do they pause properly for double or em-dashes? My other annoyance is hearing dot dot dot said with a pause between each when there is an elipsis. I also don't want to hear apostrophes when they are used for single quotes. If they behave correctly in those situations I might not mind them even if I am not a fan of that type of TTS, meaning concatonated real human speech. With Keynote and ViaVoice I can tell if something is weird even without all punctuation being spoken, and that is what I would like in a new synthesizer. I'll check out the site with your recommendations. One more question. Is there any way to try a demmo of them that would only run for a limitted time, but can be installed on your computer? You can hear what the voice sounds like from samples, but not how it behaves with your hardware and software. Sarah Van Oosterwijck http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:57 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: speech problems > I have had pretty good success with the ATT Natural voices in XP for > editing. > They work very well for editing especially with Read All punctuation is > turned on. > > Scansoft has some good voices too. > > www.nextup.com > > Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > Graduate Advisory Council > www.guidedogs.com > > The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to > stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. > > -- Vance Havner > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:29 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] speech problems > > > How depressing. I guess that means it is ViaVoice that has the problem not > Kurzweil or Open Book since they both have the problem. > The lack of a tolerable synthesizer is all that keeps me from switching to > always using Windows Xp. I don't like other speech, but could live with it > if only I didn't want to edit. I just can't edit with most speech, because > it is not precise enough to know if things are messed up or not without > stopping and checking all the time. Many don't respect punctuation as they > should, others muffle or make words somewhat indistinct so one letter being > incorrect could go unnoticed. Even more are unresponsive and are therefore > unacceptable when you need to stop and start them very quickly over and over > again. Or is it that I just have to upgrade my brain, and all of those > problems are just in my head? > > > Sarah Van Oosterwijck > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:39 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: thanks and scanning > > > > Hi Sarah, > > > > Yes, I've always had problems with the implementation of ViaVoice that > > Openbook uses. It would always crash my system, so I went to the MS Sapi > > sound engine, even though I don't like its sound quality as much. Better > > to have bad speech, than no speech and a reboot. > > > > Dave > > > > At 03:57 PM 12/30/2004, you wrote: > > >Patti, Thanks for your thanks and the cook book recommendations. > > > > > >I know very little about Open Book, but know what Fine Engine tends to > do, > > >so results should be similar. > > > > > >I think maybe I should install an Open Book demmo in Xp to see how it > works. > > >Since I can't get speech I like with Kurzweil in Xp I might as well only > use > > >Xp for experimentation. Might as well try to mess it up with installing > a > > >WindowEyes demmo, too. > > > > > >Anyone else having trouble with ViaVoice dispite it being reinstalled and > > >being the only item shown in SAPIReg.exe? Anyone have a suggestion? Tech > > >support didn't. If so write me off list at netentity at earthlink dot > net. > > > > > >Sarah Van Oosterwijck > > >http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity/ > > > > > >--- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Patti Johnson" <razz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:24 PM > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Feeling like scanning, but don't know what > to > > >scan? > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sara, that was a very nice and encouraging message, you all > have > > >been > > > > very kind. I have Open book 7, and a Visioneer One Touch 8100 > scanner, > > > > Windows Xp. I thought tat Omni Page was the better OCR but now I find > > >Fine > > > > Reader reads better, I guess it depends on what you are scanning. Is > that > > > > enough information for you or do you need to know more about my > system? > > > > Again, thanks to every one for your encoraging words. > > > > Patti > > > > > > > > Dear Lord, help me to become the kind of person that my dog thinks I > am. > > > > > > > >