[bksvol-discuss] Re: souble sets of numbers
- From: "Katie Hill" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 01:00:20 -0700
HI Amy,
I am a little unsure of what you are saying here.
That when you work on a book you put in the page numbers that are printed
and also the actual page numbers in the book?
The joy of life is living in the question
Katie Hill
Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Tajalli
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: souble sets of numbers
With Braille I am at a loss but the Kurzweil pagination identifies the page
number of the page beginning from the first page - blank or printed - in
the book, It also identifies the page based on the pagination the scanner
gives it or that is on the page if included. When I scan a book with page
numbers which I include in the header, I go to the place on the bottom,
underneath the text, where Kurzwiel puts, on the top of 2 rows, the page
number and I adjust that to match the number on the text page, while on the
second row under the text there is a page [for example] 193 of 193. That
differs from the text number as it counts every physical page or page as
differentiate in the text. Scanners like me will include the blank pages so
that the page numbers on the text page match those on the top of the two
K-1000 lines.
Amy
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From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: souble sets of numbers
> First, I apologize for the typing error; the word in the subject should
> have been double. What I fail to understand is that if I am scanning with
> Kurzweil or validating a RTF file, I only see one number, that of the
> print page. Kurzweil speaks a page number but it is not seen. Why then are
> we seeing additional numbers in the final form of the book? I am speaking
> of braille because that's what I read, and as I have pointed out
> previously, I know that the office is not scanning with Kurzweil. So my
> question is, what do these second numbers represent?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amy Goldring Tajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:23 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: souble sets of numbers
>
>
>> Query: is this discussion of "soluble" page numbers only about Braille or
>> about other formats? In Kurzweil, with some books I try to match the text
>> page # with the program page number as they can be changed but that
>> leaves a difference between the page number and the page number as in the
>> # of pages so I get page 79 on the page and listed by the program as page
>> 79 but it is page 97 of 97 pages because there are 18 "preliminary pages
>> including blank pages. I set the page number to match the book pagination
>> but that does not include the roman numeral pages or blanks between title
>> pages which is why there is a big difference in books with introductory
>> material. One only need to know the difference if you want to navigate
>> to a specific page and then you need to subtract the prelim. pages from
>> the program page number to get the text number but after seeking a few
>> times it is easy to remember how to do it. This only works if you include
>> the headings or footings that have the text page number since that is the
>> number that the program or screen reader reads. If I have been long
>> winded in the explanation it is because it is easy to get confused when
>> dealing with different ways to count pages regardless of the final
>> designation of rtf or kes or whatever.
>>
>> Amy
>> omsm
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:58 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: souble sets of numbers
>>
>>
>>> I'm afraid it's not as simple as that because the book that caused me to
>>> write the E-mail was done in the office and I'm sure they don't use
>>> Kurzweil or Open Book so I can't figure out why this should be
>>> happening.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Linda Adams" <ladams@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:43 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: souble sets of numbers
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Jill. This may have resulted from someone trying to save a book in
>>>> RTF little by little instead of scanning the whole book in Kurzweil or
>>>> OpenBook and then converting the file to RTF. I did that once, and I'm
>>>> sure I caused the validators endless grief. There may be other causes,
>>>> but I know from experience that saving originally in RTF is trouble!
>>>>
>>>> Linda Adams
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:37 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] souble sets of numbers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know why in many books we are seeing two sets of numbers?
>>>>> I just downloaded A Thousand Splendid Suns and there is double page
>>>>> numbering with different numbers of course. Since this is far from the
>>>>> first book where I have seen this, I would like to know what causes it
>>>>> and how it can be eliminated. This particular book was scanned in
>>>>> office as a New York Times bestseller.
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