[bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks

Now, ain't that a revoltin' development!
- "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same
time."

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: EVAN REESE 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:09 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks


  Yes, the page count announced by a screen reader will be different from the 
number of hard page breaks if soft page breaks are encountered in Word, which 
can be a source of great confusion. That's why people should adjust their page 
length so as to eliminate them.

  Evan

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bob 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:36 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks


    Now I'm a little confused, and I thought I understood this.

    In word, if one encounters a soft page break does the page count at the 
bottom of the page (the one that speech announces when it changes) does that 
page count increase? If so, then the page count and the number of hard page 
breaks would be different. (Yuck!)

    Then, of course, there is always section breaks to worry about... but 
that's another story for another day.

    Good night all.

    Bob (wonders off muttering incantations)
    - "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same
    time."

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: EVAN REESE 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:18 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks


      The Bookshare tools don't "get rid" of soft page breaks because they 
aren't actually in the rtf file. They are simply artifacts that word displays 
when the page size is too short between hard page breaks. The hard page break 
is an actual character in the rtf file that the Bookshare software can see and 
count. The soft page break that Word shows is not. Not having soft page breaks  
doesn't do anything to the page numbering because only hard page breaks count. 
So if the page numbers and hard page breaks match up, the page numbering is 
accurate.

      Evan

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Cindy 
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 8:44 PM
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] soft page breaks


               I didn't realize that they didn't count, and I've always deleted 
them, though usually when I put in a hard break they disappear. Does the 
conversion process get rid of them? But what does that do to the page numbering 
sequence?

              Cindy

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              --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


                From: Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: now soft vs hard page breaks was 
New and a couple questions
                To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:22 AM


                How do you determine what is a hard or soft page break? I'm 
using Microsoft Word XP and WindowEyes 7.1 to do my proof reading.
                Thanks,

                Melissa



                Jamie Yates wrote:
                > Hi Melissa and welcome! I would add that you want to make 
sure that the extra page breaks are true page breaks and not soft page breaks 
that don't count. If you had a real page break and a soft page break next to 
each other, and you deleted the true one, thinking the soft page break was the 
real one and the real one the extra one, now you wouldn't have enough page 
breaks.
                >  
                > -- Jamie in Michigan
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