Now, ain't that a revoltin' development! - "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time." ----- Original Message ----- From: EVAN REESE To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Yes, the page count announced by a screen reader will be different from the number of hard page breaks if soft page breaks are encountered in Word, which can be a source of great confusion. That's why people should adjust their page length so as to eliminate them. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:36 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks Now I'm a little confused, and I thought I understood this. In word, if one encounters a soft page break does the page count at the bottom of the page (the one that speech announces when it changes) does that page count increase? If so, then the page count and the number of hard page breaks would be different. (Yuck!) Then, of course, there is always section breaks to worry about... but that's another story for another day. Good night all. Bob (wonders off muttering incantations) - "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time." ----- Original Message ----- From: EVAN REESE To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:18 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: soft page breaks The Bookshare tools don't "get rid" of soft page breaks because they aren't actually in the rtf file. They are simply artifacts that word displays when the page size is too short between hard page breaks. The hard page break is an actual character in the rtf file that the Bookshare software can see and count. The soft page break that Word shows is not. Not having soft page breaks doesn't do anything to the page numbering because only hard page breaks count. So if the page numbers and hard page breaks match up, the page numbering is accurate. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] soft page breaks I didn't realize that they didn't count, and I've always deleted them, though usually when I put in a hard break they disappear. Does the conversion process get rid of them? But what does that do to the page numbering sequence? Cindy Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites below Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List Books Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: now soft vs hard page breaks was New and a couple questions To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:22 AM How do you determine what is a hard or soft page break? I'm using Microsoft Word XP and WindowEyes 7.1 to do my proof reading. Thanks, Melissa Jamie Yates wrote: > Hi Melissa and welcome! I would add that you want to make sure that the extra page breaks are true page breaks and not soft page breaks that don't count. If you had a real page break and a soft page break next to each other, and you deleted the true one, thinking the soft page break was the real one and the real one the extra one, now you wouldn't have enough page breaks. > > -- Jamie in Michigan > Currently Reading: The Curse of the Spellmans by Lisa Lutz > See everything I've read this year at: www.michrxtech.com/books.html <http://www.michrxtech.com/books.html> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.