I was thinking that might be a good first step (save to txt), then resave to rtf but I got it--no txt! lol Black and white. Got it. >What software is doing your OCR No idea. Is there a way to find out which OCR this is? I don't see any documentation anywhere in HP Solution Center. Charisma P.S. I can read Braille Grade II but I can't feel it well enough to justify the incredible high loan for a screen reader and braille output, so I listen. So I am understanding what you mean about Braille readers needing all the stuff there. I just was not thinking about that before. Sorry to be inconsiderate. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.