Hi, I think before you take offense at what a person says to you, it seems to me it behooves you to email the person and ask something like this: "You said (quote the remark as you read it) and my impression or feeling was (describe your reaction to the remark), then ask what they intended to convey by the remark, or what spirit the remark was made in." Hopefully this should clear the air and avoid hurt feelings. If the other person says that they wish to help you and you still have problems with them, maybe it's because your styles of communication are different. Communication is risky at the best of times as everyone knows, and maybe everyone is under a lot of pressure to do their jobs well and sometimes tempers flare. I was sad to see the fracas coming about. (I will not mention any names.) I wish you all well, and best regards, Kim. P.S.: I hope you understand I'm not trying to tell you folks what to do or pontificate (although I have been known to fall into that [smile]),but I wanted to give my opinion for what it's worth. If you don't like it, feel free to delete the message. I won't be offended. Don't write me back and tell me you've deleted it. (smile). K. _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:57 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: resigning from the volunteer list If E wants to resign from the list, and her announcement indicated that it was her choice, it is her right to do so, but I am not pleased to see her go either. She is a bit blunt, or as you put it, brusque, but if one takes her words literally without reading anything into them she shows no signs of hostility or intention to offend. I have noticed that on various email lists there is a strong tendency to read things into posts that are not said. Literal mindedness can be a virtue and it is not necessary to be thin skinned. "The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end. " Leon Trotsky The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com <http://wwww.themilitant.com> Pathfinder Press: http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html _ table with 2 columns and 7 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: resigning from the volunteer list Date: 9/9/2009 1:40:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: popularplace@xxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx CC: pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end I don't think E should resign from the lists. I read almost all the posts and have been for years; generally the only ones I skip are the ones that deal with technology about which I have no expertise. E's posts are sometimes a bit brusque--it's her way of writing, but she has learned to soften them and I see that she tries. Never has there been inappropriate language, i.e., swearing or name-calling , and those, to me, from what I have seen on other email lists or chat rooms, are the only things that I would call inappropriate in posts. If someone doesn't like the tone of her posts, when they see in the From space that the post is from her, they can just delete before reading it. P Cindy Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites below Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List Books Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List --- On Tue, 9/8/09, E. <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: block quote From: E. <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] resigning from the volunteer list To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:54 PM I have been a member of this list pretty much continuously since 2003. Pavi just sent me a note saying she had received feedback regarding messages I have recently sent to the list which some other volunteers have judged to be inappropriate. This is kind of personal I know. What is appropriate for one person may not be for another. Rather than unintentionally offending anybody, I am resigning from the volunteer list. Elizabeth who often signs myself as E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. block quote end ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd=Julyst epsfooterNO115)