[bksvol-discuss] sensitivity or lack thereofRE: Re: resigning from the volunteer list

  • From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:15:47 -0700

    Hi, I think before you take offense at what a person says to you, it
seems to me it behooves you to email the person and ask something like this:
"You said (quote the remark as you read it) and my impression or feeling was
(describe your reaction to the remark), then ask what they intended to
convey by the remark, or what spirit the remark was made in." Hopefully this
should clear the air and avoid hurt feelings. If the other person says that
they wish to help you and you still have problems with them, maybe it's
because your styles of communication are different. Communication is risky
at the best of times as everyone knows, and maybe everyone is under a lot of
pressure to do their jobs well and sometimes tempers flare. I was sad to see
the fracas coming about. (I will not mention any names.) I wish you all
well, and best regards, Kim. P.S.: I hope you understand I'm not trying to
tell you folks what to do or pontificate (although I have been known to fall
into that [smile]),but I wanted to give my opinion for what it's worth. If
you don't like it, feel free to delete the message. I won't be offended.
Don't write me back and tell me you've deleted it. (smile). K. 

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If E wants to resign from the list, and her announcement indicated that it
was her choice, it is her right to do so, but I am not pleased to see her go
either. She is a bit blunt, or as you put it, brusque, but if one takes her
words literally without reading anything into  them she shows no signs of
hostility or intention to offend. I have noticed that on various email lists
there is a strong tendency to read things into posts that are not said.
Literal mindedness can be a virtue and it is not necessary to be thin
skinned. 

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I don't think E should resign from the  lists. I read almost all the posts
and have been for years; generally the only ones I skip are the ones that
deal
with technology about which I have no expertise.

E's posts are sometimes a bit brusque--it's her way of writing, but she has
learned to soften them and I see that she tries. Never has there been
inappropriate
language, i.e., swearing or name-calling , and those, to me, from what I
have seen on other email lists or chat rooms,  are the only things that I
would
call inappropriate in posts. If someone doesn't like the tone of her posts,
when they see  in the From space that  the post is from her, they can just
delete before reading it.
P

Cindy

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--- On Tue, 9/8/09, E. <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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From: E. <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] resigning from the volunteer list
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:54 PM

I have been a member of this list pretty much continuously since 2003.

Pavi just sent me a note saying she had received feedback regarding messages
I have recently sent to the list which some other volunteers have judged to
be inappropriate.

This is kind of personal I know. What is appropriate for one person may not
be for another.
Rather than unintentionally offending anybody, I am resigning from the
volunteer list.
Elizabeth
who often signs myself as E. 
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