I'm glad you ranted so now I don't have to. My feeling is that these scanners are not on this list, possibly started scanning when Bookshare's standards were so low and have not bothered to read the submitting updates. What's even worse is if a validator working under the old rules gets one of these books; then a truly poor product results. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:19 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: see long synopsis a waste and frustrating
I might add, though reluctantly, I have downloaded books lately where the person who scanned the book did not read it, or if did, ignored a plethoraof errors and then called the scan " excellent, almost no errors." I wonder how ... or why ... that happens? Any book I have sent I have read thoroughly from cover to cover, and exhumed as many obvious errors or missing pages or missing words ... as possible. It's frustrating when, particularly when it'sa book I truly like and want to finish, to have all kinds of errors which continue to continue without knowing what the source was suppose to be. Reading a book by gathering it by context is no fun. :)Sorry for my rant, however it seems to me that if books are to be submitted, then they should be submitted with the idea that as many errors as possiblebe handled by the original submitter, not the validator. When both the submitter, and the validator are involved with corrections, many fewer errors are the result, but you can't start out with the context and expect much more than the hodge podge it began with.Many times, scanners, as such, put in long descriptions, advertise on theselists, books they've sent but when I download ... Curtis Delzer----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] see long synopsis a waste and frustrating Dear Booksharian Friends, Those words, "See long synopsis," which appeared on several titles onSunday's new books list frustrate and annoy me every time I read them. From yesterday's list I uploaded 6 books but none of my choices had those dreadedwords in their descriptions. Your valuable volunteer and staff efforts have given me so many wonderful, usually unexpected, books to read, I don't take time from my volunteeringreading, and real life to look up titles that refer me to the long synopsis.I also don't punish myself either to make a point by failing to read books Irecognize that I like whose authors or titles I already know, just because the submittor and validator didn't take time to write any kind of helpful short synopsis for them. But, If I'm not familiar with the book, I don't bother to track down a long synopsis. If volunteers can't be bothered to write a helpful short synopsis, I conclude they don't care much about that book and don't waste unnecessary time finding out about it because I think it has a good chance of not being carefully prepared. If a volunteer cares about a book, you'd think she or he would want others to benefit from their work. You'd think they would hope many readers will select their book and it will be widely read. Why put your own book in theseconds bin by not writing an inviting and/or informative short synopsis forit? The short synopsis is the book's best publicity. In other discussions some volunteers have used the excuse that they can't write a long synopsis because they haven't read the book. By my personal work standards That already shows a considerable amount of lack of caring. However given the volunteer isn't planning to read the book, this excuse still doesn't hold up. Why not formulate a short synopsis by summarizing that famous long synopsis to which they direct potential readers. Itwouldn't take too long to dash out some brief high points mentioned in thatlong synopsis. It's only 200 characters or less we're hoping for. I'll always appreciate everyone's work and am not targeting an individual since I didn't look up any of these books to identify the volunteers who write "See long synopsis." I wouldn't dream of trying to manipulate the volunteer community or the staff to weigh in on this issue or to institutemajor changes according to my personal guidelines and desires. It's my hopethat expressing my opinion might result in some books in the future beinggiven the more detailed short synopses they deserve. And if that happens ornot, at least I've expressed my feelings. I assume all of us have the good of Bookshare at heart. I've written this pointed and fervent message from the perspective of both a volunteer and a reader who loves Bookshare. I'm stating my opinion to encourage volunteers to try a little harder to attract readers to their books and to make book browsing more satisfying to me. Always with love, Lissi To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list ofavailable commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.Version: 7.5.523 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1381 - Release Date: 4/16/2008 9:34 AM
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