[bksvol-discuss] Re: recurring scanning flaw
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:31:14 -0500
Braille doesn't have a representation for the M or N dash.
Is one of the limitations of braille. We don't have many ways to represent
fancy fonts and symbols that are now popping up in regularity in books.
Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
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Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Advisory Council
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:15 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: recurring scanning flaw
Cindy, That was very interesting information. I went into MS word and when I
wrote sister-in-law, I heard the words dash. When I actually wrote a dash
(two hyphens) I heard M-; however, the braille display only showed a hyphen.
Very interesting!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: recurring scanning flaw
> Jill,
>
> There are 3 different kinds of dashed: a hyphen, and
> em dash, and an en dash. I never knew what an en dash
> was for until the subject came up here recently --
> apprently, though I've been using hyphens for words
> like twenty-four, brother-in-law, other compund words
> that are supposed to be separated, one is technically
> supposed to use an en dahs, which is longer than a
> hyphen and shorter than an em dash.
>
> An em dash is used when another though interrupts a
> sentence -- sort of a parenthetical thought but not in
> parentheses.Example: "Austin could see the black line
> of trees in the darkness em dash with only a few more
> hdegerows to bridge em dash when they heard the thrump
> of helicpoter rotors coming from the direction of the
> chatesu."
>
> Or a break of an idea but in the same sentence.
> examples from a book I'm looking at now: "the best I
> can do is maybe Aberdeen emdash and I can't reach
> there before the jets arrive."
>
> Also, an interrupted sentence or thought which is
> different from an unfinished thought, which would use
> ellipses. example: "The second one's a Bell Jet Rang
> em dash" Hanley started to say.
>
> It sounds like Jaws is putting em dashes where they
> belong. What does it say for hyphens?
>
> Cindy
>
> Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I finally concluded that when I hear JAWS say m-, it
> > is actually just a
> > dash; at least that's what is showing on the braille
> > display. Why JAWS
> > should say m- is beyond me.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:41 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: recurring scanning
> > flaw
> >
> >
> > > Hi, Jill,
> > >
> > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by the m- symbol.
> > In
> > > the book I'm validating now, there are em dashes
> > where
> > > there should just be a normal between-word space.
> > In
> > > the book I just finished, the letter m by itself
> > > should have been the word "in."
> > >
> > > I'd need to see some examples to know what yours
> > > should be, but if you think it should be a comma,
> > go
> > > ahead and change it. When I'm typing I frequently
> > it
> > > the em key instead of the comma key and have to
> > change
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > > -- Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The book I am presently validating has many m-
> > > > symbols. Does anyone know if this should be
> > replaced
> > > > by a comma? That's what seems to be called for
> > in
> > > > most, but not necessarily all, instances.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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