[bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776
- From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 19:12:24 -0500
Cindy,
Yes, it really works. The page numbers aren't being stripped, but modified
to allow the DAISY readers to recognize them. From what I understand, the
problem is that not all DAISY file readers are being designed to easily show
page numbers if a person wishes to see them.
As for leaving a blank line between a header/footer and the main text, I've
never left out the blank line between a header/footer and the main text for
two reasons: I think it looks better with the blank line in there, and, more
importantly, other volunteers have warned that leaving it out will cause
problems with the Stripper recognizing the page number.
As for whether or not to put a blank line between a header/footer and a page
break, I haven't noticed that it makes a difference to the Stripper, and
leaving the extra blank lines out appears to cause the Bookshare tools to
append the page number to the front of the following paragraph when creating
the HTML file that is unpacked from the BKS file.
HTH
Gerald
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:50 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776
Thanks, Gerald, but does that really work? I know it's
supposed to, but I thought page numbers were being
eliminated along with the headers.
Where there are no headers, should the pge numbers be
on the top line? I thought there was supposed to be a
line spcae between page break and page number and
another betweenpage number and main test on page.
Speaking of Daisy, Barb W. informed me that neither
the Daisy nor the BRF versions of The Amazing Bone
had the illustration descriptions. I've asked Gustavo
what happened and what about the other Caldecott and
other children's books I've done.
Cindy
--- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Cindy,
>
> The page number needs to be left on the same line as
> the header. Otherwise,
> the page number is no longer part of the same
> paragraph as the header, and
> the Stripper will not be able to do it's job
> properly. Remember that the
> Stripper's main job is to recognize page numbers and
> substitute DAISY tags
> to aid in navigation through the DAISY book.
>
> If you look back through the validation instructions
> sent out when you
> became a volunteer, or in your case Cindy, possibly
> the validation
> instructions that Janice sent out a month or two
> back as a reminder for the
> list, you'll find the following step in cleaning up
> headers/footers.
>
> Check that page numbers should have a space on
> either side,
> separating them from the header/footer text. If the
> page number is
> the first character in a header it does not need a
> space before it; or if
> it is the last character in a footer it does not
> need a space after it.
>
> Also, if page numbers appear in the headers, then
> simply placing the correct
> page number at the top of pages where chapters begin
> will keep the Stripper
> happy and prevent it from stripping the chapter
> heading.
>
> HTH
>
> Gerald
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:04 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776
>
>
> I do the same thing. After recent discussions,
> though,
> if the headers are correctly spelled, I leave them
> so
> the stripper can do its work without deleting
> anything
> else, but I put the page number on the line below.
> If a chapter starts on a new page, I put the word
> chapter or something else on the top line so the
> stripper will leave the Chapter title alone if it
> starts with the word chapter.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> --- Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I don't quite get that. I handstrip headers as a
> > matter of course. Takes a
> > bit longer, but at least the book isn't full of
> junk
> > headers. And it only
> > really adds a few hours to the time required, max.
> > Tracy
> > At 05:35 PM 9/30/05 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Thank you and Gerald for correcting me. I wonder
> > how I managed to download a
> > >"good" book. Actually all pages are there and
> page
> > breaks don't seem to be a
> > >problem. It does say who submitted the book;
> > obviously he thought the
> > >stripper would work but it didn't do so
> > consistently. Since one would have
> > >to have the book on hand to make the corrections,
> I
> > guess the validator
> > >can't be blamed either.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:59 PM
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reading 1776
> > >
> > >
> > >> Jill
> > >>
> > >> Right now, the book has a "good" rather than an
> > excellent rating.
> > >> This, of course, still
> > >> makes the book eligible for brailling.
> > >> Based on what you report, the end result would
> > likely be disappointing.
> > >> What is even more disturbing is that the
> listing
> > for 1776 indicates a book
> > >> of 5 pages which means that the book is either
> > incomplete or, in this
> > >> case, devoid of most of its page breaks.
> > >> I can see where headers might prove a problem
> on
> > a Braille display which
> > >> doesn't use true pagination.
> > >> Hopefully, someone down the road will rescan
> the
> > book and replace the copy
> > >> which is in the collection.
> > >> Incidentally, the submitter of the book is
> > unknown as it is that infamous
> > >> "a bookshare volunteer".
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