[bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading question
- From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:42:51 -0800 (PST)
Sue;
How frustrating! I hope Alisa can push them harder. The only thing worse than
a problem is an unresolved problem and no communication on progress or, better
yet, solution! Grins.
Valerie
Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
----- Original Message ----
> From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 12:35:04 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading question
>
> Speaking of elipses, ever since the new site went up the translator for .brf
> files mistranslates them. It also mistranslates in dialect, when people
> drop letters and the apostrophe is used to denote the dropped letters. I
> have filed quality reports about it, and it was brought to the attention of
> engineering, but nothing has been done. I do wish they could fix those
> problems.
>
> Sue S.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mayrie ReNae
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 10:57 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading question
>
> Hi Vivian,
>
> No, we can't use ellipses!!!! The three dots are still necessary!!! That
> document just used the symbol and the word, because an ellipsis is what
> three dots are.
>
> Sorry for the confusion!
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vivian Flores
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:28 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading question
>
> Hi Mayrie;
>
> So are you saying we can now use ellipses? The proofreading manual says
> otherwise, it says to remove all ellipses and replace with three dots, no
> spaces in between dots, and no space before the dots, and a space after the
> dots.
>
> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/4.2+C.+8.+Standardize+ellipses
>
> I've followed the above since I started proofing.
>
> Another question, if we can use ellipses, do we need to replace the three
> dots with an ellipse?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vivian
>
> At 07:51 AM 3/5/2012 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >You're welcome. This will be included in the upcoming, revised
> >scanning and proofreading manual.
> >
> >Mayrie
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of misha
> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:22 AM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading question
> >
> >Wow, that's what I have been trying to do, but I've never seen such
> >clear and appropriate examples before.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Misha
> >
> >
> >On 3/5/2012 7:11 AM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:
> > > Hi Chanelle,
> > > Here is pasted below what we agreed upon for the handling of the
> > > ellipsis so that we conform with braille code.
> > > See below.
> > > Please let me know if you have any questions.
> > > Mayrie
> > > Formatting The Ellipsis
> > > The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a word. Examples:
> > > "Fools rush in ..."
> > > "... for they shall inherit the earth"
> > > "Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
> > > and out."
> > > An ellipsis and a period. Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
> > > dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
> > > preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not
> > > the same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of
> > > the four dots is the period.
> > > If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
> > > and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the
> > > place of missing words within the sentence--in which the period
> > > immediately follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a
> > > sentence is gramatically complete, the first dot represents the
> > > period and the ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or
> > > sentences. In this case a blank cell (a space) is left between the
> > > period and the following ellipsis.
> > > Example:
> > > As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
> > > Well, you know the story.
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > --
> > > *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Chanelle
> > > Allen
> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 7:05 AM
> > > *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] proofreading question
> > >
> > > Dear Volunteer list,
> > > If there is a period after a word followed by a space and then three
> > > periods, would I delete the period and space after the word so that
> > > it would be followed by the ellipses? Or do I leave the original
> > > period after the word, delete the space, and then just have four
> periods?
> > > Maybe it doesn't matter, but since we are not supposed to alter the
> > > text, I thought that I would ask.
> > > Chanelle
> >
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