Katie, I thought that, too. Is rtf the preferred file format is it just the suggested format? Please, clarify. Thanks! Barbara Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: When I read the "keep" part of the mssage about keeping files with images I had the perhaps mistaken idea that it meant the submitter should keep it him/herself for the time at which bookshare could retain images, and then the file could be resubmitted. It didn't say to submit files with images. Of course, no one know when that will be --perhaps there has to be another leap in technology--and I don't know if people have the capacity to store files with images definitely, so maybe I misunderstood the bookshare statement. Cindy --- Katie Hill wrote: > Hello Diane, > > This is the same question I asked when I first came > on to Bookshare. Even > though the Bookshare guidelines say this, anyone > joining the list would get > the impression that it is definitely preferred that > all files be uploaded in > RTF. Files with images are the preferred format as > far as bookshare goes and > RTF is the preferred format when it comes to > validators. > > Katie Hill > You can learn a lot if you are humble enough to > listen. > Lynn Lewis Warren > Email: Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 503-777-7155 > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Diane Scalzi > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:15 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: prohibiting kes and > arc formats > > The scanning preferences page at bookshare.org also > shows the following: > > Scanner settings > > 1. Keep Exact View / Image File > > list of 3 items > . If your scanner allows you to do so, keep the > image file of the scanned > pages along with the text translation. If you are > using a Kurzweil 1000 > version > 6 or Kurzweil 3000, the image file is saved with the > .kes file format. If > you are using OPENBook or WYNN, the image files will > be included if you have > "Keep Exact View" enabled. > > Why do we ask for this? Over time, as the quality of > Optical Character > Recognition technology improves, we hope to be able > to go back to the > original image > files that are submitted to provide an even higher > quality book. > > However, the size of books scanned with exact view > on is quite large, and > people with limited disk space or slow connections > may find this > impractical. > We want your book with or without the images! > > . If your system does not allow you to keep the > image file of the scanned > pages along with the text translation, or if the > file size makes this > impractical, > please save the scan in RTF format. > > The link to this page is > http://www.bookshare.org/web/SupportScanningPref.html. > > I think this begs the question of which preference > is more important to > bookshare.org. Does the organization want > submissions where it might be > possible to improve the quality in the future, or is > it more important to > submit books that more people will be able to > validate? I can upload books > either way, so it makes no difference to me, but > perhaps someone in the > organization should weigh in. Thanks. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Grandma Cindy > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:44 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: prohibiting kes and > arc formats > > I didnd't say that the newsletter should prohibit > ARC or KES > submissions--just that it suggest that they should > be submitted in rtf if > possible--which has been suggested before ("or to > the instructions for > volunteers it could be added that books should be > submitted in rtf") True, I > didn't add "if possible," but I did add "unless it > can't be done." > > On the volunteer page, underneath the list of > acceptable formats, is this > paragraph: > > "Rich Text Format (RTF) is the preferred file format > for book submission to > Bookshare.org. RTF enables us to produce the most > consistent content output. > This file format may be generated by using the "save > as" > feature in most word processors, and it is a file > format that is available > on all computer platforms. " > > All I was suggesting was that this be put in a > newletter or in the volunteer > acceptance information. > Of course, as I suggested, or asked, and as you > eplained in a previous post, > if a person can't convert to rtf for any reason then > he/she can't, and > people like you and Grace and others who can > validate in ARC and KES and do > those books. Possibly if the message on the > volunteer home page were more > widely disseminated, more people who had the option > of converting to rtf > would, and more books would be available to a wider > group of volunteers. > > Cindy > > --- "E." wrote: > > > I am just a bit concerned when i hear somebody > suggest that the > > newsletter put out by bookshare ask that kes and > arc formats not be > > used. 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