[bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read

Well, here is one way to help improve the quality of the collection. When I 
am reading a book from the main collection and I come across a mistake I just 
submit a quality report. That includes errors such as minor scannos, just what 
one would expect from poor proofreading, and when it is something like a minor 
spelling error I usually very quickly, like maybe in a day or so, get an 
email telling me that the error has been corrected. That doesn't make me feel 
any 
better, though, about the fact that I am cleaning up after someone who got 
$2.50 in credit for not doing the same thing.

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Hi Mayrie,

My opinion is that every single title added to the collection should be read 
through at least once, and that it precisely what I do with every book I 
submit or proofread. Even so, my scans and proofreads are not perfect, but I 
do try, as many of us here do.

It really bothers me that someone can earn $2.50 credit by doing the 
minimum, while many of us choose to spend hours and hours on a book.

If I'm not mistaken, book quality issues have kept many from membership in 
the past, and it bothers me that the minimum is still tolerated.

I'm in no way saying that every book has got to be perfect because I have 
yet to submit a perfect product, but I believe there needs to be a 
tightening of standards. However, I'm not sure just requiring a book to be 
held over a day or so before check in will guarantee that the proofreader 
actually reads the book.

Blessings.

Lynn I

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read

Hi Natasha,

Unfortunately, I can sympathize with you completely.  The people who
proofread in this fashion aren't proofreading at all.  I have a hard time
believing that Bookshare is as concerned about excellent quality as the
organization claims to be. All that would have to happen is for the
volunteer manual to specify that a proofreader actually read the book that
he/she checks out.  Or at least require a spell check. And if all
proofreaders were required to be on the volunteer list they would learn
about the many issues that the volunteer manual doesn't address such as
protecting chapter headings that are all too often lost because volunteers
don't know that this needs to be done. There arises here the question of why
the volunteer manual doesn't mention these things.  No answer has ever been
given to this question.

Many volunteers are not on the e-mail lists.  They have no way of
knowing what havoc incomplete knowledge and lazy proofreading cause.  I have
a hard time holding people responsible for what they don't know.  But you'd
think that telling people that they are proofreaders should imply that they
should be reading books in order to provide the best quality books.
Unfortunately, a book that is "readable" is acceptable to many people.  I
don't believe that we should have to, or need to settle for readable any
more.

I know that I'm preaching to the choir here.  It's kind of pointless
to tell people who are doing a thorough job that people need to do a
thorough job. That can too often result in hurt feelings.  So, all of you
who read, I'm not talking about you.  It's those who don't that frustrate me
and many others.

Mayrie

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Natasha Baebler
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:01 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read

The two books i submitted earlier today have already been accepted into the
collection! *shakes head*  Both books were over 300 pages and were checked
in, in the case of one, less than an hour after I submitted it.

*sigh* I try guys, really I do. This is the kind of situation that makes me
wish books couldn't  be checked in the same day they're checked out.

*sigh*

I hope they're ok...

Natasha and Guide Dog Fossey
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