E., is the history book you are reading on bookshare? I should think it would be very important for bookshare to show print page numbers. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc. I am a braille reader. I am reading a history book for a class. I have to reference pages (print page numbers) for a paper. Print page numbers have great meaning for me as a braille reader. I am using a braillenote. I never see a page as a sheet of braille. Who cares about braille numbers? I want the same numbers my sighted classmates, professors or whatever have. "meaningless"? E. At 01:15 PM 1/18/2008, you wrote: >I totally agree Elizabeth. > >But, it might be the fault of whatever software is being used. From >a logical viewpoint you wouldn't expect a Braille page to contain >the same amount of material that a print page does. I think I've >heard the figure that a page from a braille book contains about one >third the material a print page does. So, if the book does contain >page numbers from the print book, they would be meaningless to a >Braille reader, because print page numbers would occur one third of the >time. > >Bob >----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:38 AM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc. > > >>I remember going through this same discussion about Kurzweil and >>Daisy before with somebody with textbooks (was it you Dr. Cross?) >>voicing the same concern. The concern is that .brf files also seem >>to have some kind of paging issue. >> >>Both these concerns seem critical to me. Kurzweil is meant for use >>by a population which includes many students. Brf files which >>bookshare processes certainly need to retain print pages. >> >>E. >>At 12:22 PM 1/18/2008, you wrote: >>>Hi Kenneth, >>> >>> If you are downloading books from Bookshare and reading >>> the daisy files with Kurzweil 1000, you won't see page >>> numbers. I had the same complaint that you are making, and had >>> to be told that K1000 doesn't, for some reason that no one has >>> managed to explain to me, retain the page numbers in >>> Bookshare's daisy files. So, your books may after all, still >>> retain their proper page numbering. You may just not be able to >>> see them. No guarantees that your page numbers are still there, >>> just an explanation of why you might not see them in the Bookshare book. >>> >>>Peace, >>>Mayrie >>> >>> At 07:25 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote: >>>>For all this talk, can someone give the name of one book in the >>>>current collection of over five hundred pages which has all of >>>>the page numbers, in the right places, so that one can use that >>>>page number to footnote scholarly research. I would like to see >>>>at least one, because almost all of the books I put on the system >>>>are mangled so that I can't later use them for my work or research. >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get >>>a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the >>>subject line. >>> >>> >>>__________ NOD32 2806 (20080118) Information __________ >>> >>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>http://www.eset.com >> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject >>line. >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM >> > >To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject >line. > > >__________ NOD32 2806 (20080118) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.