[bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc.

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:30:55 -0600

E., is the history book you are reading on bookshare?  I should think it 
would be very important for bookshare to show print page numbers.

Sue S.

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From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc.


I am a braille reader. I am reading a history book for a class. I
have to reference pages (print page numbers) for a paper. Print page
numbers have great meaning for me as a braille reader. I am using a
braillenote. I never see a page as a sheet of braille. Who cares
about braille numbers? I want the same numbers my sighted classmates,
professors or whatever have. "meaningless"?

E.
At 01:15 PM 1/18/2008, you wrote:
>I totally agree Elizabeth.
>
>But, it might be the fault of whatever software is being used. From
>a logical viewpoint you wouldn't expect a Braille page to contain
>the same amount of material that a print page does. I think I've
>heard the figure that a page from a braille book contains about one
>third the material a print page does. So, if the book does contain
>page numbers from the print book, they would be meaningless to a
>Braille reader, because print page numbers would occur one third of the 
>time.
>
>Bob
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>>I remember going through this same discussion about Kurzweil and
>>Daisy before with somebody with textbooks (was it you Dr. Cross?)
>>voicing the same concern. The concern is that .brf files also seem
>>to have some kind of paging issue.
>>
>>Both these concerns seem critical to me. Kurzweil is meant for use
>>by a population which includes many students. Brf files which
>>bookshare processes certainly need to retain print pages.
>>
>>E.
>>At 12:22 PM 1/18/2008, you wrote:
>>>Hi Kenneth,
>>>
>>>         If you are downloading books from Bookshare and reading
>>> the daisy files with Kurzweil 1000, you won't see page
>>> numbers.  I had the same complaint that you are making, and had
>>> to be told that K1000 doesn't, for some reason that no one has
>>> managed to explain to me, retain the page numbers in
>>> Bookshare's  daisy files.  So, your books may after all, still
>>> retain their proper page numbering.  You may just not be able to
>>> see them.  No guarantees that your page numbers are still there,
>>> just an explanation of why you might not see them in the Bookshare book.
>>>
>>>Peace,
>>>Mayrie
>>>
>>>   At 07:25 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote:
>>>>For all this talk, can someone give the name of one book in the
>>>>current collection of over five hundred pages which has all of
>>>>the page numbers, in the right places, so that one can use that
>>>>page number to footnote scholarly research.  I would like to see
>>>>at least one, because almost all of the books I put on the system
>>>>are mangled so that I can't later use them for my work or research.
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