[bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc.
- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:34:37 -0600
No, the print pages aren't meaningless. In a hard book that is print
and braille, particularly if it is a text, it shows Braille page
numbers on each page, but it also shows to which print pages these
correspond. So if page 3 is the third page of Page 1 in print, then
the print page number in Braille says C1. To do meaningful research
and report on that research, a person really must have the print page
numbers. Also, if you are tudying with print readers, one the
instructor says, "This can be found on Page 524, you can find ghat.
Cindy Lou Ray
Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc.
I totally agree Elizabeth.
But, it might be the fault of whatever software is being used. From a
logical viewpoint you wouldn't expect a Braille page to contain the
same
amount of material that a print page does. I think I've heard the
figure
that a page from a braille book contains about one third the material
a
print page does. So, if the book does contain page numbers from the
print
book, they would be meaningless to a Braille reader, because print
page
numbers would occur one third of the time.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page numbers etc.
>I remember going through this same discussion about Kurzweil and
>Daisy
>before with somebody with textbooks (was it you Dr. Cross?) voicing
>the
>same concern. The concern is that .brf files also seem to have some
>kind of
>paging issue.
>
> Both these concerns seem critical to me. Kurzweil is meant for use
> by a
> population which includes many students. Brf files which bookshare
> processes certainly need to retain print pages.
>
> E.
> At 12:22 PM 1/18/2008, you wrote:
>>Hi Kenneth,
>>
>> If you are downloading books from Bookshare and reading the
>> daisy
>> files with Kurzweil 1000, you won't see page numbers. I had the
>> same
>> complaint that you are making, and had to be told that K1000
>> doesn't, for
>> some reason that no one has managed to explain to me, retain the
>> page
>> numbers in Bookshare's daisy files. So, your books may after all,
>> still
>> retain their proper page numbering. You may just not be able to
>> see
>> them. No guarantees that your page numbers are still there, just
>> an
>> explanation of why you might not see them in the Bookshare book.
>>
>>Peace,
>>Mayrie
>>
>> At 07:25 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote:
>>>For all this talk, can someone give the name of one book in the
>>>current
>>>collection of over five hundred pages which has all of the page
>>>numbers,
>>>in the right places, so that one can use that page number to
>>>footnote
>>>scholarly research. I would like to see at least one, because
>>>almost all
>>>of the books I put on the system are mangled so that I can't later
>>>use
>>>them for my work or research.
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