[bksvol-discuss] Re: old books on step 1
- From: "Kaitlyn" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:56:32 -0800
Hi Jake,
I think what some people are saying it would be nice to get more feedback on
what needs to be done. I have been uploading some new books and on the
submission page you get some kind of feed back like.... File contains zero
data, etc. An example would be: Check copyright, you can do this through
www.amazon .com or the U.S. copyright office.
I do computer support and it would be the difference between a customer
emailing and saying "my computer doesn't work and I need it fixed" to "when
I boot up I get the following error"
IT seems to come down to better communication especially for those that are
less savvy.
Katie Hill
You can learn a lot if you are humble enough to listen.
Lynn Lewis Warren
Email: Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
503-777-7155
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake Brownell
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:11 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: old books on step 1
Elizabeth et al,
Again this message not directed at any one person:
If Gustavo says something like:
Please verify title.
He is saying, hey you probably made a mistake. You either need to fix the
error, or defend your position. The same for other fields. Also, all
volunteers should remember to be as specific as possible. Things like:
"I verified the title"
or
"Copyright verified"
or
"author checked"
Probably are not going to get you too far too fast. Tell him what you did,
did you check on Amazon? Did you check on copyright.gov? If you checked on
Amazon consider giving the URL, or if on the LOC website copying the
appropriate record into the field. This helps show him that you understand
what you are talking about.
Some volunteers get so involved with correcting scanos and fixing up books
that they forget the primary purpose of validation. That purpose is to check
for a few specific things. Among them that *ALL* information on the forms is
correct. If there is a kick back 9 times out of 10 the validator seems to be
at fault. I have seen titles where validator claims to have verified
copyright, yet Gustavo correctly kicks it back again because the validator
did not do it properly. There are repeated submitters out there that nearly
always incorrectly fill out the copyright field, yet validators continually
attempt to validate these books without updating the field....it really
makes me wonder sometimes. If you're reading this and saying that's not me,
really really, pay attention the next time to how diligent you are about
checking the fields, as I have seen some very unlikely people making
mistakes.
I also encourage all volunteers to reread the validation instructions and
the tip "guidelines for submission fields" from time to time. You would be
surprised what you probably are unaware of. For instance I see lots of
people include titles like Ph.D. or forget to put the word editor in
parenthesis.
If you have particular instances where you do not understand what Gustavo is
attempting to communicate you should either ask onlist or offlist with one
of the list monitors...we'll do our best to explain it.
HTH,
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth and Burton" <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: old books on step 1
> First he questioned the copyright. Then he questioned the title. I do
> not understand either question. Both are fine. The book is in great
> shape. I uploaded it yet again. I am peristent or stubborn depending on
> your perception. (grin) I do think that having a separate step 1 kick
> back list would highlight some issues. I think Jake's thirty days old
> list highlights others. I will do my best not to take too many books at a
> time in the coming new year. At least I get a lot done even if I take
> many of them.
>
> I do really think validators ought to be notified with more detail about
> the nature of a kick back problem instead of this cryptic stuff.
>
> E.
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