[bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of it.

  • From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:33:01 -0700

Very cute!

And no, my clothing choices are pretty conservative.  Just in case anyone
really wanted to know.

Mayrie

 

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Mayrie ReNae wrote:
Okay, it's way too late, and I have a huge pile of laundry hollering at me.

So are you saying that you wear a lot of loud clothing? <grin>

Evan

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From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:43 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of it.


> Hi Rik,
>
> The problem with random insertions of page breaks is that they won't
> coincide with any print book.  And what folks want is the ability to be 
> told
> "Turn to page 101." and be able to get there.  This can only be done if 
> the
> book with the EXACT same ISBN is read by both readers.  So, inserting page
> breaks at 25-line intervals won't solve that problem.
>
> I suggest that if folks want to be able to navigate to the same spot in a
> book as their hard copy reading friend, they might ask for the first few
> words of page on the given page and then do a "find" for those few words
> (almost all daisy readers have this capability) and navigate to the same
> place in that way.  As for being able to site page numbers, the same
> technique would have to be used I suppose.
>
> It isn't perfect, I know.
>
> And, Sandi, I should have replied to your own note, but I just didn't and
> thought for a bit on what you said.  Please, if you find errors in brf
> copies of publisher quality books, please make book quality reports and
> state whether you think the errors might be errors in braille translation.
> Bookshare can't change the content of a publisher donated file, but if the
> braille translator being used by Bookshare needs tweeking, it helps staff 
> to
> know where to look for errors created by the braille translator.
>
> Okay, it's way too late, and I have a huge pile of laundry hollering at 
> me.
>
> Hope all are finding good books to read and means with wich to read them
> that do the job they want.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:57 PM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of 
> it.
>
> I appreciate your suggestions, Mayrie, although as it happens, on the 
> Victor
> Stream, I had created the folder and indeed copied all of the files in
> there.
> And it reads fine. Except as we agreed, without the ability to navigate by
> page.
>
> I agree with those who have stated the opinion that page navigation has to
> still be an important component we come to rely upon in our reading, and 
> has
> been a real benefit of the Bookshare experience, for myself, and am glad 
> to
> hear others feel the same.
>
> I agree, with you, too, however, Mayrie. The fact that the books are 
> coming
> from the publishers is great, and something we have also advocated for.
>
> If it is true, that thinking caps can come on and we and Bookshare staff 
> can
> come up with a way to take those and, while there is no page number, to as
> one said, at least just designate that so many lines is a page and put the
> markers in there.  I'm not at all technical enough to know how. But I bet 
> it
> could be done, and in such a way that it would not have to require a ton 
> of
> extra time.
>
> Just something for the good old long Bookshare wish list, I reckon.
> And thankful I remain that the collaborative spirit remains in Bookshare. 
> I
> think it is a great endeavor. And one I appreciate all of you for being a
> part of.
>
> Meanwhile, I am glad to get a book so quickly.
> A few years ago, I was out there going and buying these new books and
> scanning furiously to submit those which I had gotten a fever for from
> listening to the author on their book tour doing the radio or tv circuit.
> Now, I have reformed. Since a couple times or more I did that and found 
> that
> my submission was rejected and the message said it because the book was
> already in the collection.  I was not paying enough attention to know this
> was happening.
>
> Anyway. I rattled on again, too long, too.
>
> Thanks.
> Rik James
>
> PS.  Now, back to Radio Unnameable with Bob Fass on WBAI.  It is my one 
> late
> night! My Montana stream, a campfire heard crackling all the way from the
> Big Apple!
>
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