Oh, yes, those were the days, weren't they? Yes, we were given page
numbers to read, so that amazes me, the obtuseness of folks who don't
realize the needs of those who will be reading the books. How are
students or working people supposed to do their work if they are unable
to cite page numbers in reports and the like? Just how are kids supposed
to do their homework if they can't find those page numbers? You write a
report, say, if you're a professor of anthropology or whatnot, if you
can't give proper citations, you'll be laughed at as a sloppy scholar.
Nobody will be impressed with the excuse that you didn't know what page
number the quote was on but it's there in the book. Regards, Kim
Friedman.
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Okay, Kim.
Thanks.
I appreciate hearing what you say.
And that you heard what I did say, in the spirit intended.
I think Daisy navigation is worth talking about.
I like to read a lot more when I know I may go back and find what I
think I
read.
Or if someone says, hey did you read so and so? And they can say, well
yeah, go to page so and so. or chapter so and so.
You know?
Handy dandy.
And as Mike pointed out, in my day, the teachers did love to assign by
page
number.
Read the Dickens, page 240-270. Or you will catch the Dickens later.
Got
it? We got it.
Rik
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:34 PM
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Hi, Rick, I would like you to know that I don't think you were "rattling
on" as you call it, but were expressing your quite legitimate thoughts,
reflections, opinions, etc. and I for one am glad you wrote what you
did. Heavens, that's how we get to know each other, by letting our
personalities shine through our writing. Please refrain from apologizing
for expressing your thoughts. Regards, Kim Friedman.
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of
it.
I appreciate your suggestions, Mayrie, although as it happens, on the
Victor Stream, I had created the folder and indeed copied all of the
files in there. And it reads fine. Except as we agreed, without the
ability to navigate by page.
I agree with those who have stated the opinion that page navigation has
to still be an important component we come to rely upon in our reading,
and has been a real benefit of the Bookshare experience, for myself, and
am glad to hear others feel the same.
I agree, with you, too, however, Mayrie. The fact that the books are
coming from the publishers is great, and something we have also
advocated for.
If it is true, that thinking caps can come on and we and Bookshare staff
can come up with a way to take those and, while there is no page number,
to as one said, at least just designate that so many lines is a page and
put the markers in there. I'm not at all technical enough to know how.
But I bet it could be done, and in such a way that it would not have to
require a ton of extra time.
Just something for the good old long Bookshare wish list, I reckon. And
thankful I remain that the collaborative spirit remains in Bookshare. I
think it is a great endeavor. And one I appreciate all of you for being
a part of.
Meanwhile, I am glad to get a book so quickly.
A few years ago, I was out there going and buying these new books and
scanning furiously to submit those which I had gotten a fever for from
listening to the author on their book tour doing the radio or tv
circuit. Now, I have reformed. Since a couple times or more I did that
and found that my submission was rejected and the message said it
because the book was already in the collection. I was not paying enough
attention to know this was happening.
Anyway. I rattled on again, too long, too.
Thanks.
Rik James
PS. Now, back to Radio Unnameable with Bob Fass on WBAI. It is my one
late night! My Montana stream, a campfire heard crackling all the way
from the Big Apple!
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