[bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of it.

  • From: Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:53:41 -0500

I suspect there will be a change in how reporting and assigning go as people go 
more and more to EBooks. Already if you site from the web, you put the name of 
the web site and what date you acquired the information. In a book, you might 
end up just having to say Chapter whatever. Maybe everyone will, but it 
currently seems sloppy. That's one big complaint about Bard books as well.

On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:

> Kim, I totally agree.  I hear our old friend Ken Cross screaming from his
> grave.  He was a professor, and he was adamant about the importance of
> proper page numbering.  He led reading groups, and needed to, well, get
> everyone on the same page.
> I'd go nuts, if I were still a student, and the teacher said to read pages
> X-Y, and I couldn't figure out where either X or Y was.
> Tracy
> 
> 
>> Oh, yes, those were the days, weren't they? Yes, we were given page
>> numbers to read, so that amazes me, the obtuseness of folks who don't
>> realize the needs of those who will be reading the books. How are
>> students or working people supposed to do their work if they are unable
>> to cite page numbers in reports and the like? Just how are kids supposed
>> to do their homework if they can't find those page numbers? You write a
>> report, say, if you're a professor of anthropology or whatnot, if you
>> can't give proper citations, you'll be laughed at as a sloppy scholar.
>> Nobody will be impressed with the excuse that you didn't know what page
>> number the quote was on but it's there in the book. Regards, Kim
>> Friedman.
>> 
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>> it.
>> 
>> 
>> Okay, Kim.
>> Thanks.
>> I appreciate hearing what you say.
>> And that you heard what I did say, in the spirit intended.
>> 
>> I think Daisy navigation is worth talking about.
>> I like to read a lot more when I know I may go back and find what I
>> think I
>> read.
>> Or if someone says, hey did you read so and so?  And they can say, well
>> yeah, go to page so and so. or chapter so and so.
>> You know?
>> Handy dandy.
>> 
>> And as Mike pointed out, in my day, the teachers did love to assign by
>> page
>> number.
>> Read the Dickens, page 240-270.  Or you will catch the Dickens later.
>> Got
>> it?  We got it.
>> 
>> 
>> Rik
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kim Friedman
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:34 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of
>> it.
>> 
>> Hi, Rick, I would like you to know that I don't think you were "rattling
>> on" as you call it, but were expressing your quite legitimate thoughts,
>> reflections, opinions, etc. and I for one am glad you wrote what you
>> did. Heavens, that's how we get to know each other, by letting our
>> personalities shine through our writing. Please refrain from apologizing
>> for expressing your thoughts. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:57 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of
>> it.
>> 
>> 
>> I appreciate your suggestions, Mayrie, although as it happens, on the
>> Victor Stream, I had created the folder and indeed copied all of the
>> files in there. And it reads fine. Except as we agreed, without the
>> ability to navigate by page.
>> 
>> I agree with those who have stated the opinion that page navigation has
>> to still be an important component we come to rely upon in our reading,
>> and has been a real benefit of the Bookshare experience, for myself, and
>> am glad to hear others feel the same.
>> 
>> I agree, with you, too, however, Mayrie. The fact that the books are
>> coming from the publishers is great, and something we have also
>> advocated for.
>> 
>> If it is true, that thinking caps can come on and we and Bookshare staff
>> can come up with a way to take those and, while there is no page number,
>> to as one said, at least just designate that so many lines is a page and
>> put the markers in there.  I'm not at all technical enough to know how.
>> But I bet it could be done, and in such a way that it would not have to
>> require a ton of extra time.
>> 
>> Just something for the good old long Bookshare wish list, I reckon. And
>> thankful I remain that the collaborative spirit remains in Bookshare. I
>> think it is a great endeavor. And one I appreciate all of you for being
>> a part of.
>> 
>> Meanwhile, I am glad to get a book so quickly.
>> A few years ago, I was out there going and buying these new books and
>> scanning furiously to submit those which I had gotten a fever for from
>> listening to the author on their book tour doing the radio or tv
>> circuit. Now, I have reformed. Since a couple times or more I did that
>> and found that my submission was rejected and the message said it
>> because the book was already in the collection.  I was not paying enough
>> attention to know this was happening.
>> 
>> Anyway. I rattled on again, too long, too.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Rik James
>> 
>> PS.  Now, back to Radio Unnameable with Bob Fass on WBAI.  It is my one
>> late night! My Montana stream, a campfire heard crackling all the way
>> from the Big Apple!
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