[bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of it.

  • From: Barbara B <scootergirlred@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:53:01 -0700 (PDT)

Does the Daisy format keep the page numbers? If so, will I lose the page 
numbers if I save the file in a different format?
 
Barbara

--- On Fri, 9/30/11, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new books and Daisy navigation, or lack of it.
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, September 30, 2011, 12:43 AM


Hi Rik,

The problem with random insertions of page breaks is that they won't
coincide with any print book.  And what folks want is the ability to be told
"Turn to page 101." and be able to get there.  This can only be done if the
book with the EXACT same ISBN is read by both readers.  So, inserting page
breaks at 25-line intervals won't solve that problem.  

I suggest that if folks want to be able to navigate to the same spot in a
book as their hard copy reading friend, they might ask for the first few
words of page on the given page and then do a "find" for those few words
(almost all daisy readers have this capability) and navigate to the same
place in that way.  As for being able to site page numbers, the same
technique would have to be used I suppose.

It isn't perfect, I know. 

And, Sandi, I should have replied to your own note, but I just didn't and
thought for a bit on what you said.  Please, if you find errors in brf
copies of publisher quality books, please make book quality reports and
state whether you think the errors might be errors in braille translation.
Bookshare can't change the content of a publisher donated file, but if the
braille translator being used by Bookshare needs tweeking, it helps staff to
know where to look for errors created by the braille translator.

Okay, it's way too late, and I have a huge pile of laundry hollering at me.

Hope all are finding good books to read and means with wich to read them
that do the job they want.

Mayrie



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I appreciate your suggestions, Mayrie, although as it happens, on the Victor
Stream, I had created the folder and indeed copied all of the files in
there.
And it reads fine. Except as we agreed, without the ability to navigate by
page.

I agree with those who have stated the opinion that page navigation has to
still be an important component we come to rely upon in our reading, and has
been a real benefit of the Bookshare experience, for myself, and am glad to
hear others feel the same.

I agree, with you, too, however, Mayrie. The fact that the books are coming
from the publishers is great, and something we have also advocated for.

If it is true, that thinking caps can come on and we and Bookshare staff can
come up with a way to take those and, while there is no page number, to as
one said, at least just designate that so many lines is a page and put the
markers in there.  I'm not at all technical enough to know how. But I bet it
could be done, and in such a way that it would not have to require a ton of
extra time.

Just something for the good old long Bookshare wish list, I reckon.
And thankful I remain that the collaborative spirit remains in Bookshare. I
think it is a great endeavor. And one I appreciate all of you for being a
part of.

Meanwhile, I am glad to get a book so quickly.
A few years ago, I was out there going and buying these new books and
scanning furiously to submit those which I had gotten a fever for from
listening to the author on their book tour doing the radio or tv circuit. 
Now, I have reformed. Since a couple times or more I did that and found that
my submission was rejected and the message said it because the book was
already in the collection.  I was not paying enough attention to know this
was happening.

Anyway. I rattled on again, too long, too.

Thanks.
Rik James

PS.  Now, back to Radio Unnameable with Bob Fass on WBAI.  It is my one late
night! My Montana stream, a campfire heard crackling all the way from the
Big Apple! 

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