Well, you've convinced me. smile Unless bookshare compains, I'll convert em dashes to double-hyphens instead of vice versa. Question: in Braille, is the dash used for the em dash surrounded by a space, as between regular words and as opposed to a hyphen which has no space between it and the words on either side? Example: - Or do the spaces not appear? Could you replace spacedashspace with double dashes without spaces? Cindy --- Mayrie ReNae <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Cindy, > > The problem is that there aren't any em > dashes in the brf > files, so you can't convert them to anything. They > aren't > there. All braille readers see where there is > supposed to be an em > dash, otherwise referred to as a long dash, is a > single hyphen. If > you want a braille reader to see an em dash, you > need to convert it > to two hyphens side by side. And when reading with > speech, the > double hyphens present no differently than an em > dash. In my > opinion, everybody wins with double hyphens. And > I'm sure that you > remember that when we had to use type writers, the > double hyphen is > how we had to represent the em dash. > > There is the argument that says not to > deviate from the > printed text. For the most part, I agree with this > whole-heartedly. Not in this instance. Can you, as > a sighted reader, > easily distinguish between two hyphens side by side > And the em > dash? Would the difference lessen your > understanding of the book, or > your pleasure? There is a world of difference > between a hyphen, > which is all the braille readers see when the em > dash is used, and > the long dash that they see when two hyphens are > used. The > difference does indeed make a difference in the > interpretation of the > text. And I certainly don't want children to read > books and think > that an em dash is represented by a hyphen and try > to use that in > their own writing, not when I can keep the confusion > from > happening. Okay, I'm done soap boxing. because we > are all free to > choose, I respect whatever choices people make. > > Peace, > Mayrie > > At 01:31 PM 3/6/2008, you wrote: > >Can em dashes be converted to double dashes for > your > >reading pleasure after you've downloaded a book? As > a > >validator I've been converted all double dashes and > >single dashes that aren't hyphens to em dashes. > Quite > >a few books already have em dashes appropriately, > >lately. > > > >G. Cindy > > > >***WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE > BOOKSHARE > >COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE AT > >http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > >http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > >http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > > > >A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS > AVAILABLE AT > >http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/scanning.html > > > >Jake's site for useful links: > http://www.jbrownell.com/bkslinks.html > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > to > >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > line. To get a > >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by > itself in the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > line. To get a list of available commands, put the > word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > ***WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE AT http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/scanning.html Jake's site for useful links: http://www.jbrownell.com/bkslinks.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.