[bksvol-discuss] Re: geewiz improvements
- From: "Meka" <mekawh@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:54:23 -0800
I was not making the assumption that it would be accessible right out of the
box, although I am certain that accessibility is on the priority list,
considering that they were asking for feedback in the first place. I also
know that it isn't safe to assume that every single kink will be ironed out
and it will be absolutely perfect and usable. I didn't feel as though I
was aluding to that, however, even if you seem to think otherwise.
But I would hope that we don't just shoot it down before it has the
opportunity to take off. I'm starting to wonder if I was in some sort of
bizarro conference as opposed to other people.
And I hope, that once this project is ready, we'll get to test drive it
since I love this type of interactive technology and the possibilities that
it can hold.
Just for the record, I am not against tools for validation, just in case
that isn't abundantly clear. But sometimes I feel as though we can be
awfully quick to say no to something new and different. I know that I'm
very excited about it. I also don't think it's fair to automatically assume
that it won't be usable, either.
Meka
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From: "Guido Corona" <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Thank you Meka, you are reight. it is safe to assume that all the
enhancements and new technologies that we may see from Bookshare.org in
the future will be accessible to blind members/volunteers.
G.
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]
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I think that you are putting the cart before the horse and borrowing
trouble, in my opinion. Part of the conference the other night was not
only
for discussion of the ideas that were being developed, but also asking for
opinions. The opinions that were relevant as part of the discussion.
The other night, when you asked about tools, we were told that the
engineers
present didn't work in that particular department. The reason why they
came
to us in the first place to discuss these ideas was so that there could
not
only be *constructive* feedback, but also that concerns about
accessibility
could be addressed.
Just because the idea might be of the toolbar variety doesn't mean that
there will not be accessibility and I think that assuming so off of the
bat
is not only unfair but pretty shortsighted, too.
I also think that we're forgetting that a lot of ideas that are discussed
on
this list have been taken in to consideration and end up being
implemented,
so let's not jump on the 'OMG this won't work' bandwagon quite yet.
Meka
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From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:55 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: geewiz improvements
I am concerned about top down idea generation. I am also concerned
that bookshare may lose "sight" (dare I pun on the word) of their
audience. Recordings for the Blind did in my opinion. They went from
an organization which served blind consumers to an organization who
served anyone with a print disability and their teachers care givers
and rehab counselors.
Something a teacher who can see thinks is cool can mess up my system.
We know what happened to quality when RFB became RFBD. Let's learn
from flash wiz experiences of the past to create tools which are
truly useful to the blind comsumer and particularly useable by blind
deaf folks.
Here are some ideas.
1. I have a personal downloaded tool which I can configure. It runs
when I envoke it and not in the background taking up resources which
normally are used by my speech package (JAWS Window-eyes whatever).
2. I can configure this application to download daily those
periodicals I am interested in from bookshare. I can also configure
the tool to batch download a series of books.
Blind folks like tools which make working on the computer faster for
us. Faster is different if you cannot see than if you can. Tools
which are useful in some situations may be less useful in others
depending on individual disability, computer configuration and
personal preferences.
E.
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