All, progress and innovation takes place through a combination of top/down and bottom up approaches and the infinite resulting feedback loops. Ideas from Bookshare engineering do not preclude our own ideas and viceversa. We should let our ideas be known, as Lisa and her crowd do listen. On the other hand, it is also very productive for us to keep a creatively open mind when we hear about new ideas that sound somewhat 'out of the box'. G. Guido Dante Corona IBM Research, Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) Austin Tx. Phone: 512. 838. 9735. Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.ibm.com/able ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise." [David Poyer, The Command] "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/19/2008 08:31 AM Please respond to bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: geewiz improvements Even if they don't have any speech or braille users as engineers, I would think they could find a host of volunteer beta testers right here on this list. I really wish they would ask us about ideas instead of telling us their ideas, after all we are the users. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:03 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] geewiz improvements > The geewiz tools they seem to like in engineering are the kind people with > sight enjoy. They do not seem to realize that tool bars often get in the > way of our speech since they have to run as background and eat up > resources. > > Are there any blind (I mean no ability to read screen by seeing it) > engineers working for bookshare? > > I recently got a lot of messages from the gwmicro list talking about how > messy and inconventient various toolbars make their systems. I am going to > forward them to Lisa. > > E. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.