Hi Amy,I think I'm doing about what you are doing, except I use Word and not Kurzweil. smile. Since I don't have Kurzweil, I use the NFBTRANS program for back translating braille, and end up with a plain text file.
The rft files I download for validating, however, contain much more visually rich information, such as bolding and italics. Those characteristics I try to preserve to as close as I believe the original publisher created as possible. smile.
Judy s. Amy Goldring Tajalli wrote:
Judy,I am not familiar with Daisy as for some reason it will not work on my computer even before my Windows went crazy. With Kurzweil, I read most of the books I download and adjust the print size and , where the font is a problem, I change it. My one problem I have not figured out how to fix is with very dark print. That is where I have to switch to a different font altogether because the font does not show as being bold but my eyes hurt after reading for a few minutes. Like you, I have sight but am visually disabled and have enough trouble getting my eyes to find a focal point so that I can read one page at a time and not two overlapping ones. I make what adjustments I can but I still think where possible it is best to know what the writer wanted us to see if there is something there to be seen If the font is irrelevant, than I don't hesitate to make it as legible as possible. That is why when I need to I switch the whole book to a New T imes R oman. It is the simplest, plain print I have found and easy on the eyes. This font, when plain and not bold, can replace the bold print even if the whole book is bold, dark print. I think the Bookshare computer or the scanner's computer does not realize that some prints are "officially" bold and need to be changed for the non-bold equivalent font.Amy omsm -------------- Original message from "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- > Mayrie is correct - it's been my experience that fonts end up being a bazillion > different sizes when books are scanned. As a sighted but disabled Bookshare > member, this makes books that are in the collection very difficult to read when > I unpack a Daisy file and use the html for visual reading. When I download a > book to validate - and I've validated close to 100 books now - almost all of the > .rft files have widely varying fonts throughout the scans, unless the individual > who scanned the book has checked and and standardized the fonting. > > As Mayrie said, it's not necessary for submissions to address this. However, it > literally takes only about 30 seconds using Word, and a few keystrokes, to > change an entire book to have one consistent font throughout. smile. > > As a sighted Bookshare member, I can tell you that it puts an additional barrier > into reading, and it makes books on Bookshare less accessible to have books with > wildly variable fonting. > > The best way I can describe it as a visual experience in equivalent listening > terms is that it's as if narrator varies from whispering to shrieking and every > noise level in-between, going back and forth constantly in volume and emphasis > with no rhyme or reason. smile. > > I usually download, back-translate and read braille books from the collection. > That way I get a file that I find much more readable, even though it loses > appropriate fonting and formatting that a well-done Daisy file preserves, > formatting that enhances the reading experience for the visual reader. > > The Daisy conversion does preserve the fonting, by the way, in my experience > based on the books I've downloaded that are in the collection. I recall reading > somewhere that Daisy conversion has difficulties with teeny fonts and > massively huge fonts - but I can't speak to that specifically, as I've never > been involved with a Daisy conversion from the technical side. > > Judy s. > > Mayrie ReNae wrote: > > Hi Nancy, > > > > I don't know if regulating the font is a common practice. I > > just know that I do it so that people reading with their eyes won't have > > to read a book with a bazillion different font sizes in it. I have been > > told that without regulating the font that Kurzweil isn't consistent > > throughout a given book at all. Drives sighted readers nuts, and takes > > me less than thirty seconds in Microsoft Word to change it to all one > > font when protecting page numbers and changing em dashes to double hyphens. > > > > Mayrie > > > > At 04:09 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote: > >> Trying again, > >> > >> Is it a common practice to change the size font a book has if you are > >> the scanner? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Nancy > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" > >> > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:07 AM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size > >> > >> > >>> I'm not positive that I understand your question, but I'll try. > >>> > >>> One can change font size and type in Word, and I do for chapter > >>> titles and places where the print book has enlarged type, e.g., for > >>> store signs in one book I validated, or newspaper headlines in > >>> another. But my scanner doesn't convert to the exact fonts that are > >>> in the book. For some of the validations I've done I've had to make > >>> enlarged fonts smaller because they don't fit on the page. I was told > >>> in the past that some don't fit properly on people's Braille readers > >>> or whatever they're using to read, also. I seem to remember, and hope > >>> I'm not wrong, that a size of 36 was the largest that would fit. Of > >>> course that would depend on the font style, because some are smaller > >>> than others, but to be safe I don't enlarge anything more than 36. > >>> > >>> G.Cindy > >>> > >>>> From: NANCY M HILL > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size > >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 10:36 PM > >>>> Is there a place where you can adjust font size? Would you > >>>> adjust the font > >>>> size for any reason other to help you proof or validate the > >>>> book if you had > >>>> useable vision? > >>>> > >>>> Nancy > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Goldring Tajalli > >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:12 AM > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Curtis, > >>>> > >>>> K1000 scans the print of the book at the size of the > >>>> print - which I > >>>> cannot read most of the time. When I first learned the > >>>> program, the Kurzweil > >>>> tech showed me how to set the size by magnification and I > >>>> did not even > >>>> notice the font or font size. Magnification does not change > >>>> anything at base > >>>> except what the scanner sees. It does not effect the final > >>>> size which is > >>>> what the book is in. All the corrections show up within the > >>>> original text in > >>>> the places I put them. If there is a problem, I ask that > >>>> the > >>>> editor/validator double check but most of the books I have > >>>> submitted have > >>>> been accepted as they were without going to step 2. If I am > >>>> really worried, > >>>> I make a note to have something checked for me so it will > >>>> go to step 2. If > >>>> not, I down load it when it is in the collection and double > >>>> check there. > >>>> Only once have I requested that the final form was bad > >>>> enough that I want it > >>>> sent back for rescanning and will be doing that soon. > >>>> > >>>> Amy > >>>> oms m > >>>> < br>If it be now, 'tis not to come, > >>>> If it be not to come, it will be now, > >>>> If it be not now, yet it will come. > >>>> The readiness is all. > >>>> William Shakespeare. > >>>> > >>>> -------------- Original message from Curtis Delzer > >>>> : -------------- > >>>> Fascinating, every book I've read using K1000, for > >>>> some reason, I did > >>>> not pay attention at all to the font or it's size. hmm! > >>>> :) Maybe I'm getting > >>>> ... what? forgetful? or .. what? :) > >>>> > >>>> Curtis Delzer > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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