[bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks

  • From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:11:00 -0700

Hi Sue,

        Oh, yes, I love that feature where Kurzweil keeps your place where
you last stopped reading!  

        Ask away whenever you need to!

Mayrie

 

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:16 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks


<smiling>  Thanks, Mayrie.  Yes, it is exciting to know I can access any 
print book, and I am reading the manual.  One thing I have already 
discovered is that when you read in Kurzweil, it keeps your place marked 
where you left off.

Thanks for the offer of help.  I will probably be asking questions.

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks


Hi Sue,

Nope, no problem working with rtf files in Kurzweil if you have your
settings all squared away in Kurzweil before you open rtf files that you
download, you can work with rtf files using Kurzweil.  No need to convert
unless you want to do that!  And it is so much faster to get responses from
your keyboard, I swear on that one!  It is so so cool that you have Kurzweil
now!

I doubt that I can tell you anything that the K1000 manual can't,
but if you need help with using Kurzweil, please feel free to write me
either off or on list and I'll be happy to share what I've learned!  Isn't
it exciting to be able to access a print book all by yourself?!!

And by the way, if you choose to, you can read brf copies of books
that you download from bookshare with Kurzweil.  There is also the option
within the Kurzweil program to search bookshare for books and download them
directly within the Kurzweil program.  That is a part of the "online" menu.


Okay, sorry, didn't mean to rattle on about the fun things you can
do with Kurzweil that you probably already knew about anyway.  Sorry again,
I just got excited for you!

 Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:45 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks


<smiling>  Well, yeah, Word sure is slow.  Sometimes when I press enter to
open a file in Word, it is soooo slow!!!!!

So how does one go about valiidating a RTF file in Kurzweil?  I mean, do you

have to change the file to a .kes extension and then change it back?  I am
speaking of validating, where you download a RTF file.  I'd love to get out
of using Word if possible.  Not only is it slow, but it pulls boners on
you!!!  <lol>

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks


Hi Robert,

You're right.  Unfortunately, I do my work in Kurzweil 1000 because
it is much less resource intensive on my computer.  I think my computer is
allergic to Word. Laugh.  If there is a word more ponderous than sluggish,
perhaps glacier-like, it would describe how well I can do things in Word.  I
use it as little as possible!  But you are right.  A macro would be faster.
I just avoid Word like the plague, probably more than the plague as I think
about avoiding Word actively and never think about the plague. Laugh.

Shutting up.

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Riddle
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 5:49 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks

You should make a macro to do that. It'd make your life easier.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: eliminating line breaks


> Hi Cindy,
>
> I guess since this is coming up twice now, I'll tell you how I deal
> with those pesky line breaks where they don't belong, in the middle of
> paragraphs. But first, to answer your direct question, yes, the bookshare
> tools will get rid of the extra space between words if there are two
> spaces
> instead of one.  That's one thing the stripper is good for!
>
> I know that you, like I, prefer to read your books in order to
> validate them.  However, I will admit to being a bit lazy.  Not that I
> don't
> want to do work, but if I can sit back and read without removing those
> pesky
> paragraph marks in the middle of paragraphs, I will and do.  I use the
> find
> and replace dialogue to do this, which takes at most five minutes, then
> the
> grand majority of inappropriate paragraph marks are gone before I ever
> start
> reading.  Here is what I do.  Since I know that you personally use Word,
> I'll tell you how I'd do it using word.
>
> I know I'm stating the obvious here, but paragraphs generally begin
> with a capital letter or a quotation mark.  I have never seen a paragraph
> begin with a lower case letter, so, what I look for are paragraphs
> beginning
> with lower case letters and join them to the word before them with a
> space.
> Does that make sense?
>
> In the find box I would type ^pa
> In the replace box I would type  a (that is hit the spacebar followed by
> the
> lower case letter a)
> Then I replace all.
> I do this with every lower case letter of the alphabet.
> And yippee!  Most of the extraneous line breaks are gone!
> Now I can sit back and read without fixing each of those occurrences by
> hand
> as they appear in my reading! Much smoother reading!
>
> For those using Kurzweil 1000 the paragraph mark is represented in the
> find
> box by typing \n (that is backslash followed by the letter n) then you
> type
> the lower case letter you want to find.
>
> Have I made sense, or just confused the masses?  I love making
> things easier on myself and allowing myself, however I can to sit back and
> read with as few corrections during the reading process as possible.
>
> Okay, I'm stopping now.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:44 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] eliminating line breaks
>
> It is what either submitter or validator needs to do. Depending on my
> mood,
> since I read while I validate I either delete each line break manually or
> blacken the paragraph, being careful to leave the break at the end of the
> paragraph, and replace with a space, so two words don't run together.
> Sometimes this leaves two spaces between words instead of one, but then
> generally, at the end, replace two spaces with one; does the bookshare
> conversion do that automatically, perhaps?
>
> I've discovered, however, that with the first paragraph (each time one
> comes
> back to the file) one has to eliminate the lines spaces by using just
> "replace," not "replace all," or it makes the whole document one
> paragraph--and unfortunately a couple of times I validated books where
> that
> apparently had been done. After the first paragraph is done, "replace all"
> will work with each new paragraph and you're safe as long as you don't hit
> continue or whatever.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:15 PM
>> Hi E.
>>
>> Guess what, I have a solution for this one too!  I get rid
>> of
>> exactly what you're talking about in every book that I
>> submit or validate
>> because I find the extraneous line breaks annoying too! Do
>> you want to hear
>> it, or should I leave you alone?
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> E.
>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:30 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Lord of the Rose
>>
>> The situation with Lord of the Rose does not involve
>> multiple line
>> breaks. it involves single line breaks as in
>>
>> He
>> walked across
>> the room.
>> In the above sentence the only line break which ought to be
>> there
>> comes after the period.
>> These linebreaks are obnoxious on a braille display.
>>
>> E.
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