[bksvol-discuss] Re: dealing with em dashes
- From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:29:01 -0500
We don't know what Bud's settings are and, therefore, we don't know if
m-dashes are being deleted wholesale.
I use this program and have sent quite a few books out lately. Does anyone
who validated my submissions remember whether these dashes were present or
not?
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From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] dealing with em dashes
Perhaps the solution for you who scan using Kurzweil
is to put in the comments section that the em dashes
might have disappeared and maybe that the book needs
to be validated by a sighted person. Whether or not
the book is taken by a sighted person, the validator
is forwarned and will know to put in an em dash
between run-together words if it sounds as if it
belongs there.
At least now I understand why I've seen, on occasion,
what I've seen. smile
G.Cindy
--- liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In 6 years of being a Bookshare volunteer I recall
two on-going issues: the
header/footer stripper issue and those danged
em-dashes! They're the bane
of many a scanner's existence! I hate the dang
things and hate when I'm
doing a book that has tons of them. Current book,
even optimized, just
deletes them and either runs words together or
leaves a gaping hole. Good
thing I only scan what I want to read anyway and can
figure it out. I've a
step up on many of you--no change that to a
balancing item. I cannot
understand speech on screen readers or cassettes or
telephones, so I'm stuck
on all this audio-only stuff I can't access (as in
Friends of Bookshare).
But I have enough vision left I can scan and
visually read in huge fonts on
Kurzweil, and check weird looking stuff with the
original under my CCTV.
Can't read more than 20-30 minutes visually without
burnout but
entertainment and marathon reading for hours via my
BrailleNote braille
display.
Bookshare email lists. Back in the beginning I
remember Bookshare-discuss
for members. Volunteers were welcome of course, but
nothing about scanning
or validating was discussed. It was about books,
collections, ideas, all
kinds of things. There was Bookshare-announce, that
only employees could
post on, it was infrequent, with system-wide
announcements, such as the site
going off-line for maintenance, or lifting the 50
book per month ban, etc.
Then there was the high volume volunteer-list. Here
was everything about
scanning. Scanners, software scanning programs,
setting options on all of
them, getting good scans, validating, the infamous
em-dashes, which programs
got picked up first off of step one (ark and kes
files seemed to sit there
forever), and so on. It was a very high volume list
with lots of content. It
seemed that Guido's name was every other post as he
knew it all. Pratik was
in there adding lots of advice and if you think he's
young now, consider
then! Cross-posting, especially about scanning
stuff, was strongly frowned
upon. After about a year and I half I quit the lists
and just merrily went
on my volunteer way. Why? For the same thing
happening now: I find myself
(own responsibility, not blaming anyone!) sucked
into the maelstrom, even
with lots of deleting, and spending the time here
rather than on the actual
scanning or editing thereof. Considering quitting
the list again, just for
that reason. With the orthopedic disability on top,
I just spent far too
much time typing this, when I could have been
editing my recent scanning.
Ah memories!
Liz in Portland
Liz Halperin
Portland, OR
lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Perhaps the solution for you who scan using Kurzweil is to put in the comments section that the em dashes might have disappeared and maybe that the book needs to be validated by a sighted person. Whether or not the book is taken by a sighted person, the validator is forwarned and will know to put in an em dash between run-together words if it sounds as if it belongs there. At least now I understand why I've seen, on occasion, what I've seen. smile G.Cindy --- liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In 6 years of being a Bookshare volunteer I recall two on-going issues: the header/footer stripper issue and those danged em-dashes! They're the bane of many a scanner's existence! I hate the dang things and hate when I'm doing a book that has tons of them. Current book, even optimized, just deletes them and either runs words together or leaves a gaping hole. Good thing I only scan what I want to read anyway and can figure it out. I've a step up on many of you--no change that to a balancing item. I cannot understand speech on screen readers or cassettes or telephones, so I'm stuck on all this audio-only stuff I can't access (as in Friends of Bookshare). But I have enough vision left I can scan and visually read in huge fonts on Kurzweil, and check weird looking stuff with the original under my CCTV. Can't read more than 20-30 minutes visually without burnout but entertainment and marathon reading for hours via my BrailleNote braille display. Bookshare email lists. Back in the beginning I remember Bookshare-discuss for members. Volunteers were welcome of course, but nothing about scanning or validating was discussed. It was about books, collections, ideas, all kinds of things. There was Bookshare-announce, that only employees could post on, it was infrequent, with system-wide announcements, such as the site going off-line for maintenance, or lifting the 50 book per month ban, etc. Then there was the high volume volunteer-list. Here was everything about scanning. Scanners, software scanning programs, setting options on all of them, getting good scans, validating, the infamous em-dashes, which programs got picked up first off of step one (ark and kes files seemed to sit there forever), and so on. It was a very high volume list with lots of content. It seemed that Guido's name was every other post as he knew it all. Pratik was in there adding lots of advice and if you think he's young now, consider then! Cross-posting, especially about scanning stuff, was strongly frowned upon. After about a year and I half I quit the lists and just merrily went on my volunteer way. Why? For the same thing happening now: I find myself (own responsibility, not blaming anyone!) sucked into the maelstrom, even with lots of deleting, and spending the time here rather than on the actual scanning or editing thereof. Considering quitting the list again, just for that reason. With the orthopedic disability on top, I just spent far too much time typing this, when I could have been editing my recent scanning. Ah memories! Liz in Portland Liz Halperin Portland, OR lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htmA LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/scanning.html
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