[bksvol-discuss] Re: comments on rejecting

Dear Cindy:

My message wasn't specifically meant for you. You're not the only one that chimes in when books get rejected. I am glad you didn't take offense though, because I certainly did not want to offend anyone.

I just wanted to explain how those of us who reject books feel about it. It's definitely my least favorite thing to do. Just ask my husband. *grin* I just wanted to express another point of view.
I also think that submitters who don't care about the finished product should not be rewarded for throwing up sloppy work. In many cases it takes less time to scan a book than to validate and clean it up well. In this particular case it was nice to see a submitter step up and say that something went wrong and resubmit the book.


***
Grace

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:25 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: comments on rejecting



Dear Lissi,

I don't think Grace's comments were made with you in
mind--most likely with me, since I'm the one who
usually complains because I'd have like the chance to
fix the books--especially since not all of them have
anything else wrong with then. The last 4 have been
almost perfect scans, the only thing wrong being that
hard page breaks weren't there and sometimes page
numbers were missing. But I've learned a lot about
Native American wisdom and philosophy, and some
history. Anyway, I've come to know Grace through her
posts and some private correspondence and I'm not
offended at all.

Cindy

--- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Grace and Mickey,

Mickey, I'm sorry I spoke up on rejecting books
without knowing the rules.
Anyway, I think you understood I meant no criticism.
It just boils down to
the fact that if something on the step one page
appeals to me, I'll validate
it for the fun of it, not for credit, but just
because it's there and I like
it and  don't have the right equipment to scan for
myself.

I appreciate your clarification on Bookshare's
guidelines for rejecting
books, Grace. I admit I'm impatient with reading all
of the information I
should. I know enough to prepare validations, but I
have a one track mind
and validation is all I really care about. With that
in mind, I really
shouldn't comment on topics I don't know enough
about. In this case, not
having done my homework, I realize I was expressing
an opinion not well
grounded in fact. Now I'm better informed.

Always with love,

Lissi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: comments on rejecting



> Dear Volunteers:
>
>
>
> I am writing to tell you about a pet peeve of
mine. I have noticed that
> every time someone posts that they've rejected a
book, there's always
> emails in response saying that the person
shouldn't have. Speaking for
> myself, I do not reject a book lightly. If I
really don't feel like
> dealing with the book I release it. I only reject
books that I feel would
> take less time to rescan. Some might say that the
collection loses out on
> a potential gem. I will argue that if said book is
that important someone
> will take the time to rescan it.
>
>
>
> As for rejecting books due to lack of page breaks,
doing so is following
> bookshare policy. It has been 1 year since
Bookshare has instituted the
> policy of page breaks. In my opinion that's
plenty of time for submitters
> to learn to follow the rules. Validators spending
many hours adding page
> breaks is setting a bad precedent for submitters.
They don't follow the
> rules and yet their books still get accepted.
Remember submitters get the
> major credit for submitting the books and yet
conscientious validators get
> the grunt work and little to show for it.
>
>
>
> Frankly I don't post on the list when I reject
books because of the
> negative responses over time. I don't enjoy
rejecting books at all. I
> only do when it's necessary. Additionally if the
reason for rejecting is
> not valid the admin kicks it back and says to
validate it. I have seen it
> happen before. Also, nothing prevents the
submitter from cleaning the book
> up and resubmitting it. .
>
>
>
> As Mickey stated all we want to do is a good job.
And in this case she was
> following Bookshare policy.
>
>
>
> Although some people may prefer quantity over
quality, the community does
> prefer quality over quantity on the aggregate, as
observed on a previous
> bookshare survey. This includes proper pagination
as well as clear
> readable text. Therefore spending countless hours
saving every book is not
> always the best way to use our valuable time.
Perhaps if less time was
> spent cleaning up scanning messes more books could
be added to the
> collection.
>
>
>
> This is my 2 cents worth for today, or perhaps
even the whole month.
> *grin*
>
>
>
> Grace
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:58 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Just rejected
>
>
>>I get very confused. When I've released books
because they didn't have
>>page breaks, I was told I should have rejected
them. When I reject, I'm
>>told I should have kept. We need guidelines,
because either way I go,
>>someone figures I should have done it differently.
All I want to do is do
>>a good job. Maybe we can get Gustavo to put it
back, since I told him
>>what the reason was.
>>
>> Mickey
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:49 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Just rejected
>>
>>
>>> Aah, Mickey. If you'd released it, I could have
taken
>>> it it. The book, at least in a couple of forms,
is
>>> available in my library systems, and it looks
like one
>>> I'd enjoy reading--and it's relatively short.
smile.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> --- mickey <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi. I had to reject Rutland Place by Anne
Perry.
>>>> There were no detectable
>>>> page breaks.
>>>>
>>>> Good scan, too.
>>>>
>>>> Mickey
>>>>
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