I'm gonna think on it. And it may be, that for me, I can only read, and if I need to except that I shall. I'm gonna give it a bit more time, and if I'm totally not getting it, not emproving, in other words not making any progress at all, then I'll know it's time to go thanks.----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: changes in books and volunteering
Hi Gwen! I don't know whether this will help you or not, but when I began proofreading, I was very nervous because I thought I'd mess up someone's book. And you know what, I did. I proofread Pretense by Lori Wick. It was submitted by Laura Ann--an excellent Christian book, by the way. Anyway, there was a scanning error that I needed to check with Laura Annabout. Beside the sentence I had a question about, I typed "scano". Well, I fixed the problem, but neglected to take out the "scano" note to myself. As far as I know it's still there. I was so embarrassed when I discovered thatmistake. But I decided I could either be embarrassed, or use it as alearning experience. What I learned was not to make any notes in the book Iam proofreading. That way, I don't have to worry about removing extraneous material that shouldn't be there. I'm trying to say that none of us are perfect. With time, help from othervolunteers, and a concerted effort on my part, I'm a much better proofreaderbecause of mistakes.Also, I thought I'd never proofread a book without using a Braille display. Well, now I often read passages sitting in the living room with my feet up, using wireless headphones and a wireless keyboard. My Braille display is in the next room. I've learned to listen well to JAWS, and with punctuation set to "most", I catch a lot of "scanos". I read line-by-line, and it's easy to tell when lines have only one or two words. Really, you develop a sense forthis kind of thing over time.But if this kind of thing is not fun for you, and if it causes you a lot offrustration, you may not want to continue to put yourself through that. Iknow I certainly wouldn't put myself through something I didn't enjoy, if Ihad a choice. *smile* Blessings. Lynnsky----- Original Message ----- From: "gwen tweedy" <gstweedy@xxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: changes in books and volunteering It is wonderful to have more books get on site, that means more to read and this is good. And I am glad quality has gone up, this is what it should do, because no one enjoys reading a poor book. Where I'm concerned is, I can correct words that are wrong or missing, I can make sure there are no missing pages, and there numbers are there that kind of thing. But I have to be honest, I'm probably gonna mess up, like beginning and ending of paragraphs, or maybe won't see a blank line, I have to figure out how to erase blank lines, I've been known when I have had to add a missing word or correct I've ran it into another word and had to take it out and put it on a new line. That insures that I don't mess up something,and yet that messes up the book probably the paragraphing the ends of linesthat kind of things, and if my book is gonna be rejected for those types of things, there is no way in the world I'm gonna turn out a book that meets or is totally satisfactory.I just am not gonna know always where a paragraph ends or maybe I'll breakit off at the wrong place.Not seeing the print or the screen I'm afraid that is gonna be tough to getit perfect, and Gwen's having enough trouble as it is, so this seems like a puzzle for me anyway.----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: changes in books and volunteeringI think we can all agree that bookshare has changed. Every day we get a list of the new books added to the system, and it's normally at least fifty books or more. Once we were lucky if we got fifty books a week. We now have a choice of downloads, daisy or Braille, and sometimes we can choose daisy with or without images. The clientele for bookshare has changed too. Bookshare isn't just for the blind anymore.Most of us look back with some sense of loss (them was the good ol' days).But as I see it, I welcome these changes. This is a long long way from where I started getting books via the internet. My first books were downloaded from newsgroups and illegal sites that rose up to fill a need. Volunteering for bookshare has also changed. Books rated fair are no longer accepted, submitters and proofreaders are asked to do much more, including changing the fonts of chapter headings etc. As I see it if volunteering for bookshare becomes a thing of the past, it will be because we can't, or won't, keep up with the other changes going on. Roger, and others, have asked some wonderful questions. The main one, I think, is, is there a future for volunteers, and my answer is there will be a future, if we make it so. Frankly, I'm enjoying being part of that future. Just my opinion. Bob "We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us will live on in the future we make," Senator Edward M. Kennedy----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <goodindo@xxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] changes in books and volunteeringHi all, I have been feeling for some time that the blind/braille community is becoming almost an afterthought here at bookshare. I agree with the person who said that bookshare is getting away from its originalmission, perhaps broadening it, but in broadening it, also focusing more on the reading issues of other groups. More and more I find that when Isubmit a book to bookshare, I have to produce two copies, one for myself, and one for Bookshare. Honestly, I'm not sure how much more ofthat I am willing to do. I also wonder if it's really realistic to havea one-size-fits-all approach to formatting. It makes total sense that the needs of a user who is sighted like Judy, would be different from the needs of someone like myself who is not. For example, the first thing I do when I pull up a book in MS-Word, is make the font size uniform throughout the document. I find that getting rid of large fonts makes the editing process much easier. Similarly, I don't care about page numbering in fiction books, and I don't want to have to forward my braille display through a line of dashes, another line that says "blank page" and then another line of dashes. Bookshare seems much more willing to ask me to put up with that, than to say that a sighted usershould have to live without enlarged chapter headings. 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