Is there a way of contacting her and trying to help her retain page breaks? Perhaps bookshare can contact her to address this issue. Especially if the quality of the scan is high. Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: Monica Willyard To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian books Sue, you are right. Page breaks were already a requirement when I became a Bookshare volunteer two years ago. I was giving the submitter the benefit of a doubt and trying to make things work. I wasn't aware that this person had been submitting books without page breaks for so long until I did a little digging. I'm still perplexed as to how she manages to strip out her page breaks, and that's why I was trying to rescue her books. Rejecting them would have felt better if the text was messy too. Still, the bottom line is that we can't accept books without page breaks, and that's that. Monica Willyard siss52 wrote: Hi Monica, Page breaks have been a requirement of bookshare.org for quite a long time, and the submitter of whom you speak knows that very well. I feel no qualms about rejecting a book which does not have page breaks because bookshare does not accept them, and that is that. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: Monica Willyard To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:37 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian books Hi, Sharon. I'm not Elizabeth, but I've seen some of what she's describing. I think Elizabeth and I may be dealing with two different submitters though, since the one I know of isn't a nun. The end result is the same though. We have a submitter who submits clean scans, but there isn't a page break to be found. There are page numbers and headers, but they appear in the middle of the text with no way to find them but to read the book cover to cover, inserting page breaks manually. They show up as part of sentences with the text flowing around them like water flows around a rock in a stream. Since this lady submits mostly Christian nonfiction that is kind of heavy reading, validating her books is time-consuming. It's also difficult to know for sure that all of the content is present until you have all of the page breaks inserted. I spent 6 hours working on the last book, only to find several missing paragraphs or missing pages toward the middle of the book. Without the page breaks, I really couldn't tell what was missing and ended up having to reject the book. What's weird is that her original files lack page breaks. She has sent me her kes files for some of her scans, and they have had no page breaks. I'm at a loss to know what is causing this. If page breaks weren't required, most of this lady's books could be accepted because the text is very cleanly scanned. I don't like this situation, but one of our rules is that page breaks are required. So either we need to find some volunteers who are willing to read through her books and insert page breaks, or we need to find out what's causing this problem in the first place. My vote is for the second option because then her books would be very easy validations. To my knowledge, this person isn't on either of the Bookshare lists. I don't know how to help her or what is causing the trouble. So the first option, finding volunteers to tackle her books, may have to be done. Rejecting such clean scans seems wrong to me. What a mess! Monica Willyard Sharon wrote: In the examples you have seen, is there anything that tells you a page break be inserted, like a page number or a chapter or book title at the top of a page? Sharon -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of E. Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] calling on validators to work on Christian books There are a lot of books on step 1 with Christian themes. Some are fiction and other nonfiction works. Some submitters are submitting books which lack page breaks. Bookshare cannot accept these. Other submitters are submitting poor quality or "raw scans". They seem to think that validators will either put in page breaks for them or clean up their work. Perhaps some of you want to take on this class of books. What is the setting in what software which produces submits without page breaks? By the way, I also notice most of these submitters do not have email addresses with the submits. E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.