[bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian books

Is there a way of contacting her and trying to help her retain page breaks? 
Perhaps bookshare can contact her to address this issue. Especially if the 
quality of the scan is high.

Grace
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Monica Willyard 
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  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:59 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian books


  Sue, you are right. Page breaks were already a requirement when I became a 
Bookshare volunteer two years ago. I was giving the submitter the benefit of a 
doubt and trying to make things work. I wasn't aware that this person had been 
submitting books without page breaks for so long until I did a little digging. 
I'm still perplexed as to how she manages to strip out her page breaks, and 
that's why I was trying to rescue her books. Rejecting them would have felt 
better if the text was messy too. Still, the bottom line is that we can't 
accept books without page breaks, and that's that.

  Monica Willyard


  siss52 wrote: 

    Hi Monica,

    Page breaks have been a requirement of bookshare.org for quite a long time, 
and the submitter of whom you speak knows that very well.  I feel no qualms 
about rejecting a book which does not have page breaks because bookshare does 
not accept them, and that is that.

    Sue S.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Monica Willyard 
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    Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:37 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: calling on validators to work on Christian 
books


    Hi, Sharon. I'm not Elizabeth, but I've seen some of what she's describing. 
I think Elizabeth and I may be dealing with two different submitters though, 
since the one I know of isn't a nun. The end result is the same though. 

    We have a submitter who submits clean scans, but there isn't a page break 
to be found. There are page numbers and headers, but they appear in the middle 
of the text with no way to find them but to read the book cover to cover, 
inserting page breaks manually. They show up as part of sentences with the text 
flowing around them like water flows around a rock in a stream. Since this lady 
submits mostly Christian nonfiction that is kind of heavy reading, validating 
her books is time-consuming. It's also difficult to know for sure that all of 
the content is present until you have all of the page breaks inserted. I spent 
6 hours working on the last book, only to find several missing paragraphs or 
missing pages toward the middle of the book. Without the page breaks, I really 
couldn't tell what was missing and ended up having to reject the book.

    What's weird is that her original files lack page breaks. She has sent me 
her kes files for some of her scans, and they have had no page breaks. I'm at a 
loss to know what is causing this. If page breaks weren't required, most of 
this lady's books could be accepted because the text is very cleanly scanned. I 
don't like this situation, but one of our rules is that page breaks are 
required. So either we need to find some volunteers who are willing to read 
through her books and insert page breaks, or we need to find out what's causing 
this problem in the first place. My vote is for the second option because then 
her books would be very easy validations. To my knowledge, this person isn't on 
either of the Bookshare lists. I don't know how to help her or what is causing 
the trouble. So the first option, finding volunteers to tackle her books, may 
have to be done. Rejecting such clean scans seems wrong to me. What a mess!

    Monica Willyard

    Sharon wrote: 
In the examples you have seen, is there anything that tells you a page break
be inserted, like a page number or a chapter or book title at the top of a
page?
Sharon

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of E.
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:54 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] calling on validators to work on Christian
books


There are a lot of books on step 1 with Christian themes. Some are
fiction and other nonfiction works.

Some submitters are submitting books which lack page breaks.
Bookshare cannot accept these. Other submitters are submitting poor
quality or "raw scans". They seem to think that validators will
either put in page breaks for them or clean up their work.
Perhaps some of you want to take on this class of books.

What is the setting in what software which produces submits without
page breaks?

By the way, I also notice most of these submitters do not have email
addresses with the submits.

E.

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