[bksvol-discuss] Re: bookshare seems to be interested in quantity

That's an interesting idea. I would think it's
possible. As I understand it, the way it is now either
the submitter gives the book its quality rating or
it's automatically rated Fair. But there would have to
be some pause or step built in to the system, I guess,
between the submission and the book's going to the
download list. I suspect the automatic rating on the
upload is somehow built into the second page of the
upload. Another job for engineering. smile

Cindy

--- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think what E. and I mean is this:  When I submit
> my validated book to the
> admin queue, the Bookshare tools run a ranked spell
> check or some other
> process to identify it's final quality.  In addition
> to doing this at the
> validation step, we should do it at the submission
> step.  The submitter then
> receives immediate feedback as to its quality: 
> fair, good or excellent, and
> the person validating already has a rough idea of
> the shape the book is in.
> 
> Bookshare could then, eventually, bar fair quality
> books from being
> submitted ... Or implement a scheme where an
> excellent book receives $3 for
> submission, a good book $2, and a fair quality book
> $1.  Increase the
> validation credit to $1, and you have a very
> equitable scale, in my mind.
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:52 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookshare seems to be
> interested in quantity 
> 
> E,
> 
> I don't think bookshare checks books that are
> submitted. They go instantly
> onto the download shelf, and aren't checked by an
> administrator until
> uploaded after valdation--and then, I think, Gustavo
> only checks the
> copyright info. That's the impression I get, anyway,
> given the fact that
> books in the collection have pages missing or
> garbled, etc. It would take
> him too long to check through the book.
> That's what we validators are for. So unless we
> reject a book, it's going to
> be accepted by bookshare. I don't see how they can
> know what's poor quality.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> -  I base 
> > this suspicion on the fact that bookshare still
> permits submits of 
> > poor quality books rather than raising the bar,
> thereby making less 
> > work for validators and improving the quality of
> bookshare's 
> > collection.  Bookshare for now seems to want to
> keep the bar low and 
> > strive for quantity.
> > 
> > E.
> > At 07:15 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi Monica,
> > >
> > >I do understand that some people validate for
> > credits, and there's nothing
> > >at all wrong with that.  On the other hand, many
> of
> > the people on this list,
> > >yourself included, strike me as dedicated, and
> > willing to do a good job for
> > >Bookshare at the same time.  Originally, Evan I
> > think it was, said that by
> > >offering more money, people would just rush
> through
> > their validations to get
> > >the credits.  Although this may be true for some,
> I
> > still find it hard to
> > >believe that most volunteers would do that. 
> Didn't
> > someone say that only
> > >seven people paid for their memberships through
> > their volunteer efforts?
> > >
> > >On the other hand, I'd rather see the pay scale
> > changed entirely.  Perhaps
> > >$2 for submissions, and $1 for validation, would
> > balance the scales more
> > >equably.
> > >
> > >This would balance so that 25 submissions, or 50
> > validations, would pay for
> > >a renewal of membership.
> > >
> > >And if offering more for validations would cause
> > people to race through a
> > >validation, offering less would seem to encourage
> > people to race even
> > >faster.  After all, if I'll only make fifty cents
> > per validation, that means
> > >I'll have to validate 100 books to get through
> the
> > renewal process.  Better
> > >validate real fast!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Monica Willyard
> > >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 PM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a sort of raise for
> > validators
> > >
> > >Hi, Cindy.  I have a scanner and use Openbook to
> > scan.  What I was trying to
> > >say is that without credits, I wouldn't do much
> on
> > the validating side of
> > >things.  As it is, I do validation both for the
> > credit and because we have a
> > >pretty hefty step 1 page right now.  Lora was
> > talking about not validating
> > >for credits, and that is what I was responding
> to. 
> > (smile)
> > >
> > >Monica Willyard
> > >
> > >On Monday 9/25/2006 11:34 PM, you wrote:
> > > >Monica,
> > > >
> > > >One gets so much more monetary credit for
> > scanning, and all you'd
> > > >really have to do after a scan is to check the
> > copyright page and put
> > > >the right info in the submission form; go
> through
> > the book and be sure
> > > >no pages have been omitted (we've all done
> that,
> > and double-scanned a
> > > >page, too); and delete junk characters; and run
> a
> > spell-check. So you
> > > >validate because you don't have a scanner? I
> > think some can be had
> > > >relatively inexpensively and it might pay you n
> > the long run.
> > > >
> > > >I don't blame you at all for validating for the
> > credits. I probably
> > > >would work for the credits, too. I admit that
> in
> > my lifetime I have
> > > >volunteered my time and efforts rather than
> > donated money, not only
> > > >because I feel I'm being useful but because I
> > don't have that much
> > > >money to donate. smile
> > > >
> > > >Cindy
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