[bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:42:43 -0800
No rush. I will be moving in early December anyway, so it may be mid or late
December before I could validate them in any case. If they are too damaged,
I'll procure copies from somewhere in January and work on them. I can get a
used copy of Odd John and Serious from Amazon for three bucks, so don't put
yourself out if the damage is interfering with a good scan. I've had good
experiences with buying used books from there, so I will likely be able to
get a good copy if you can't get a decent scan from yours.
Yes, as I mentioned, NLS does have Last and First Men and Last Men in
London, in one volume, and Star Maker. I suppose they will be orphaned as
well when they move to digital only.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
I have Odd John and Sirius, an Last and First men and Starmaker.
I may Not get to them immediately since I have 2 books I'm finishing up.
I'm working on Forgotten Men which needs its footnotes checked and properly
set up and Power to the People which needs a Name check (475 names
currently).
My guess is that I could get to it in the middle of December. The books
are old and have been very slightly water damaged. If they won't scan worth
a damn I'll let you know tomorrow. Hope this helps.
.PS NLS did have two books on tape.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:38 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
It would be an extraordinary, and unexpected, piece of good fortune if
you did have these. Whatever you find out, please send word to:
mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Whatever the results of your search, thank you very much for checking.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
I used to have them. May still. I'll check.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:01 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
The two books were by Olaf Stapledon, a British science fiction
writer who had a great influence on Arthur C. Clarke and Greg Bear among
others. His most well-known works were published in the 1930's. He is one of
the few authors whose name has become an adjective. Whenever a reviewer says
that a work is "Stapledonian", many SF readers will immediately know that
that means it is grand in scope and probably takes place in the far future
and involves characters - posthumans - people very different from the ones
around now. Some consider his writing to be rather dry, but few would
disagree that it is extremely imaginative.
The one that is available from NLS is Star Maker and the other book
was Odd John and Sirius - two separate novels, but published together in the
edition RFB&D had recorded. They did a pretty good job with both of those
recordings, too. It is sad to know that probably noone will hear them again.
I wish I had thought to check on them and order the tapes before it was too
late.
NLS also has Last and First Men and Last Men in London, two other
books published in one volume. I wonder if those, and their version of Star
Maker, will also be orphaned when they stop sending out cassettes.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
Which two?
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
There is also another issue: Whenever NLS changes its formats,
many books
are left behind - never to be accessible again. This happened
when they
stopped sending out records and it will happen again when they
stop lending
cassettes. The same thing happened with RFB&D books on cassette.
I picked up
a few that were on cassette that are not yet on CD, but I missed
some too -
probably some that I haven't thought of yet. Just last Thursday,
I was
saddened to discover that I couldn't find two books I like very
much that
they recorded years ago on tape that are now no longer available
because
they are not on CD. NLS has one of them on tape, but the other
is not
accessible anywhere at this time. I hope to fix that early next
year by
submitting it to Bookshare.
With Bookshare books, I would expect that whatever new file
formats are
created and adopted, there will likely always be devices that
can read brf
files and devices that will read old versions of Daisy files. Or
even if
that is not the case, the rtf files that Bookshare has of all
submitted
books can be reprocessed into any new format that comes along.
In short, no
more orphaned books; or it is to be hoped, anyway.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
> Plus, on bookshare, yu can get the books immediately--no
calling your
> regional library and waiting for the book to arrive.
>
> Cat Lover Lori
>
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> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:33 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I favor having books on Bookshare even if they are
duplicates. One
>> example
>> of why is that although a site like National Braille Press
has them, they
>> are in grade two braille. That leaves out some people. NLS
may only have
>> it
>> on tape. That leaves out some people. Bookshare offers books
in both
>> DAISY
>> and brf formats. That includes everyone as far as I can tell.
I wish we
>> would stop pointing people to other sites to be honest.
Instead, I feel
>> we
>> should get those books and put them on Bookshare. I wish they
would join
>> us
>> and help us. That would centralize everything.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>>
>> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens
can change the
>> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." --
Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dan Beaver"
>> <dbeaver888@gmail
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was thinking about some of the requests for books that are
found free
>> on
>> other services sites. For example, Louisa May Alcot's books.
Mnay of
>> hers
>>
>> are free on Project Gutenberg.
>>
>> We already have links on Bookshare that simply point to other
services
>> sites
>> for books. Why can't we do something similar in this case?
We have
>> links
>> that point to N BP for some books found exclusively over
there.
>>
>> Just a brain storm.
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