[bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Dear Milissa, and Booksharian Friends,

Melissa, I'm writing to support your suggestion that the two column format for ingredients should not be kept when preparing recipe books for Bookshare. You are correct that the ingredients are divided in two columns to save paper which isn't an issue with e books. I read about 80% of Bookshare with a portable braille display and 20% by voice on my Book Sense. In braille, it's easiest for me to follow a recipe when the ingredients are written in list form, one ingredient per line. This format is easy to follow in braille, auditorially and visually. Double columns introduce complications in all formats and are more difficult for volunteers to prepare.

I'm not speaking for Bookshare, but from my experience in both preparing and reading cookbooks. I think it's most important toconcentrate on getting amounts right, especially fractions, and, I like it that Jamie writes out the degrees sign. Thanks to her and to anyone who scans or proofs cookbooks. They require extra work, but I sure love perusing them and perk up when I see one on John's new books web page.

Always with love,

Lissi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Smith" <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks


Kim, Honestly I don't see any reason why the list of ingredients can't appear in a single list as opposed to columns. I'm not sure that Bookshare's tools would retain columns, though they might. It is much easier for those using speech to read them in a list. Sighted people, tell me if I am wrong, but I believe the main reason for doing this is so the recipes take up less room. I need to look at some other cookbooks from Bookshare and see how they and the ingredient list. That would give you a good idea of how to do it.

Melissa



Kim Friedman wrote:
Hi, Jamie, I certainly wouldn't object if the cookbook list was forwarded to the whole group on this list. I think I sent the thing as an attachment. I wouldn't mind proofreading a cookbook if it were just a matter of making it look like what I've seen in Braille from NLS. I don't recall reading any cookbooks in column format in Braille. _Evelyn Lee's Cookbook_ and _Evelyn Lee's New Cookbook_ were the exceptions to the rule. She was a blind cook and Braille Institute published her stuff in Braille. I have no idea if it ever was in print. She had abbreviations peculiar to her, btr. as an abbreviation for butter for instance. I have no idea what daisy cookbooks should look like. If it were just me, and I had the cookbook on my BrailleNote, and I could proofread the thing in Grade two Braille, which is how I'd read the thing anyway, I'd take you up on this. Yeah, pluck my feathers and call me matzo ball soup. (Bak-bak-bak). Regards, Kim.
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I was worried CookWise would be too big for my scanner but luckily it's not. Just barely. What I can sometimes do when it's too big, if it is in columns, like this one is, is scan the page twice but it's an awful lot of work. And I imagine it would be a big hassle for someone without sight. I wonder if Cindy should put your cookbook list on the wishlist in case others can also get them from their library? I will do more after CookWise but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew.

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